Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:30:52 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmUzJ-00024O-4x; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:30:30 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmUyP-00023b-8u for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:29:29 -0800 Received: from mail-pz0-f175.google.com ([209.85.222.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmUyG-0001wX-Gr for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:29:28 -0800 Received: by pzk5 with SMTP id 5so270900pzk.16 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:29:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FlSa2wmrSNRxkUi5Lfu+HXBx/BYAmcwc65A8YOxVjAU=; b=VBrr73qgnp1Jtkt/lMpGZQC65GERIaIBuzv6crFrOBh87Q6bIuhfT7NZk8pMrr2CqX aXPrWB6CGdQlZpfzSW65WxdU4js6I+NtlzONzMLzmVA2qG2qHAB3b1w+Me+78Qd9dHrX C9LGmDJVw3hJYQ6wAn1w2e67FRgAYVPvoChdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rt4f1TC9/nwy3ybMvMN4qhngo1So9Ey76jwzPYVyg/6leFdT9IK9fmxoBELkWCE5R8 U7EFX5v2pL0ADMpqFqmGfJdWRU0K/HAINDS/52xykFsS1krR+mWVaSItaYR3SHjB6TyM TiYhNxX15UD/lrAVl6apiiTenN64p2UEoPFsw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.6.13 with SMTP id 13mr7266wff.39.1267547353925; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:29:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9301002271026m1aa00bd8xd4ca1179ae6c6efb@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9301002231246w218ac892lb1b4f5cd15e36b75@mail.gmail.com> <201002240035.18280.phma@phma.optus.nu> <23f4e3391002232254y656b226epa409c002fde7adb8@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002232332m32ce5c4ep8bc04f98a4add7c4@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931002240401w52945f9du6db99bacc6dab7c1@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002240621kc509cd3u8140a30e162c1902@mail.gmail.com> <23f4e3391002241425o170edc5dge38d323e6efd720a@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931002251116g7ed835a0r680c29d0b7ca37e1@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002271026m1aa00bd8xd4ca1179ae6c6efb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:29:13 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a61003020829s3b319c49kaa48a934d7b54599@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: new word: prolijmo'a From: Michael Turniansky To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502ba5cc446db0480d3dd9e X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 3826 Lines: 73 --00504502ba5cc446db0480d3dd9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > After reading through the chapter on lujvo making in the CLL I'm beginning > to wonder how important it really is to perfectly describe exactly what you > want to mean. > > If I were making a tanru to mean "checker pattern" I might need to use > vlina kurfa dasri morna. But if the true meaning of a lujvo comes from > it's definition and not strictly it's component gismu (we remove {sel} and > {nun} all the time) then do we really need to describe it perfectly with > ba'u 50+ gismu? Also, it seems to me that if only a couple of gismu are > necessary to describe an idea without other ideas intersecting with it, why > add more? Is there anything more obvious than "checker pattern" for kurfa > morna to mean? Maybe later if someone wants to describe that pattern that a > tic-tac-toe board makes they could make a bigger lujvo that pulls {linji} > into it. But do we need to make every lujvo as big as the biggest lujvo > necessary? > > Therefore, unless many people object, I'm going to create a new word > kurmo'a (I've already voted down prolijmo'a). I'll wait for a bit in case > anybody is violently opposed to kurmo'a > > > Feel free to try. I quietly created that 4 days before this letter, when you wrote your original proposal, which I voted down. Feel free to vote thumbs up on it, though ;-) --gejyspa --00504502ba5cc446db0480d3dd9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Luke Be= rgen <lukeabe= rgen@gmail.com> wrote:
After reading through the chapter on lujvo making in the CLL I'm beginn= ing to wonder how important it really is to perfectly describe exactly what= you want to mean.

If I were making a tanru to mean &quo= t;checker pattern" I might need to use vlina kurfa dasri morna. =C2= =A0But if the true meaning of a lujvo comes from it's definition and no= t strictly it's component gismu (we remove {sel} and {nun} all the time= ) then do we really need to describe it perfectly with ba'u 50+ gismu? = =C2=A0Also, it seems to me that if only a couple of gismu are necessary to = describe an idea without other ideas intersecting with it, why add more? = =C2=A0Is there anything more obvious than "checker pattern" for k= urfa morna to mean? =C2=A0Maybe later if someone wants to describe that pat= tern that a tic-tac-toe board makes they could make a bigger lujvo that pul= ls {linji} into it. =C2=A0But do we need to make every lujvo as big as the = biggest lujvo necessary?=C2=A0

Therefore, unless many people object, I= 'm going to create a new word kurmo'a (I've already voted down = prolijmo'a). =C2=A0I'll wait for a bit in case anybody is violently= opposed to kurmo'a


=C2=A0 Feel free to try.=C2= =A0 I quietly created that 4 days before this letter, when you wrote your o= riginal proposal, which I voted down.=C2=A0 Feel free to vote thumbs up on = it, though ;-)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --gejyspa

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