Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:59:54 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NnBaX-0004XL-Lb; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:59:46 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NnBaA-0004XA-RF for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:59:18 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NnBa5-0004Vz-3U for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:59:18 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=m1ltDsxsD84A:10 a=i5JWgvYxADnRF5RTea0A:9 a=l9El4shO_FXENAMgnGC4UYSQ2nQA:4 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:47755] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 7A/B4-06903-AACBF8B4; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:59:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D923952 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:59:05 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: eyeglasses vs contact lenses vs etc Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:58:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <4de8c3931003040522m26d25b38wf82180dfdaa27589@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4de8c3931003040522m26d25b38wf82180dfdaa27589@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003040859.02269.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1247 Lines: 34 On Thursday 04 March 2010 08:22:12 tijlan wrote: > jbovlaste currently has {le'otci} for "eyeglasses/spectacles". But > {le'otci} must include also "contact lenses", "hand lenses", > "telescope lenses", and every other types of tool with a lens as its > main component. > > Then we want distinct words for each of them. "eyeglasses" and > "contact lenses" are probably of more general interest and worth more > attention. I initially came up with: > > kaldadle'o (kanla-dandu-lenjo) - eyeglasses > kalniple'o (kanla-snipa-lenjo) - contact lenses > > But some eyeglasses can be lens-less (e.g. sunglasses). Swapping > {-le'o} with {-blaci} would be a bad idea, since "eyeglass lenses are > commonly made from plastic, including CR-39 and polycarbonate" > (Wikipedia). {-slasi} wouldn't do either, because there are/were > glass-made eyewears. Then, {-tci} or {-ta'u}. > > What are your suggestions? A 0 dpt lens cu lenjo fi li ci'i, so I think it's OK for sunglasses (kalmanle'o), but not pinhole glasses. Not sure about "dandu", as that doesn't apply unless they're hanging by the lanyard, normally from the neck. I like "kalniple'o". Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.