Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:28:01 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NndBQ-00046z-R5; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:27:40 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NndAg-00046n-7i for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:26:50 -0800 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NndAb-00045X-Bp for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:26:49 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=onhi19IbAAAA:8 a=znlXlGv5AAAA:8 a=FsshP3GMcxPR_uVXVH4A:9 a=AcGGXNKDidoHEOzwpD1yrF6qtvIA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rjbJVYtF6XgA:10 a=Ma507JNFj8MA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:46766] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 76/9F-21054-DEA519B4; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:26:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41823EC4 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:26:37 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: le'axru dinsauru Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:26:34 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <455853.32262.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <96f789a61003050938t8dc80a9lfcd48563e0e8e99c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <96f789a61003050938t8dc80a9lfcd48563e0e8e99c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003051426.36188.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1540 Lines: 45 On Friday 05 March 2010 12:38:11 Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:59 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > Comments please. > > > > > > 1) le'axru(take back) > > > > lebna: l1 takes l2 (object/property) from l3 (possessor). > > xruti: x1 (agent) returns x2 to origin/earlier state x3 from x4 > > > > x1 xruti x2 x3 x4 pu lonu l1 lebna l2 l3 > > x1=l1 le'axru x2=l2 x3 x4=l3 > > x1=l1 takes back x2=l2 to x3 from x4=l3 > > I'd get rid of that third argument. I would assume from "take back" > that x3 is always "lo nu se ponse vo'a". Do you have any > counterexamples in mind? I agree. Btw, "x1" is the first place of the word you're defining, so if one of the components begins with "x", you have to specify another letter: x1=xr1=l1 takes back x2=xr2=l2 from x3=xr4=l3. > > 2) dinsauru(dinosaur) > > > > x1 is a dinosaur of type x2 > > As long as we're adding this, do you think that maybe "...in era x3" > would be a useful/fitting addition? It seems to me that that's an > often defining charateristic of dinosauria. Sounds good. Add one to the sheep, the tiger, and the flatfish. I think this is a better choice than the calque "tepyrespa": "many were small and inoffensive, and none were lizards." (http://www.curioustaxonomy.net/etym/misnamed.html) I'd have said "dinsauro", but I vacillate between "-o" and "-u" for fu'ivla from Latin and Greek second declension nouns. Pierre -- When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.