Return-path: X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:30:01 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1No6FY-0003QD-6j; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:29:51 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1No6EW-0003Q6-49 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:28:44 -0800 Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.160.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1No6ES-0003Po-SS for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:28:44 -0800 Received: by pwi1 with SMTP id 1so924804pwi.40 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:28:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jBSYQlzJV87iw3EBftcndvN884C5x/FUJUQYZDCaOz0=; b=eaNzOjIatwiQ3mdIl5XyuNgj6dU7quIhlB05qEQC6IHrUqhnltJohRS3dyhErUAusQ bRIJDJle1Blz14PlIQYyICxpW9j8tqpst9Qaqy9T9C2TebfsgtOeZSkUGddXCGY3bT42 U4Yj4U3PuyPnIjGaQwz9Z8fuB5IqFH6tscw3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tqj6rw8BC/cjKJ1vXaOcVHMzxJwZeAzwJbkIkchrBd4VZKYNV25JvFhf1f2VPnPIDI MQOLUm3gJ/fWMZNLT4yYbgoPJvUCOSb8P2ghrzlFVKRHriM2Q8CK8KzZipg7ZB7DlZpI BK+iE9pNFIRGnIer96l+Oi5yqvjwVR1Nk9lMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.6.31 with SMTP id 31mr375757wff.79.1267928914858; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:28:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <12d58c161003051256i28dbf1a8t765dbeb625ff0bac@mail.gmail.com> References: <455853.32262.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <96f789a61003050938t8dc80a9lfcd48563e0e8e99c@mail.gmail.com> <201003051426.36188.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20100305193218.GA31930@mercury.ccil.org> <12d58c161003051223l3c4f4824iee7f2d7c1537766@mail.gmail.com> <531055.69254.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <12d58c161003051256i28dbf1a8t765dbeb625ff0bac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:28:34 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a61003061828h6d3e5733i23839731cb390032@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: le'axru dinsauru From: Michael Turniansky To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1399 Lines: 37 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:56 PM, komfo,amonan wrote: >> From: "komfo,amonan" >> To: jbovlaste@lojban.org >> Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 3:23:19 PM >> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: le'axru dinsauru >> > > 2) dinsauru(dinosaur) >> > > >> > > x1 is a dinosaur of type x2 >> >> >> Isn't the x2 of organism brivla usually "species/breed"? >> >> But dinosaurs are just too broad a category (further up the heirarchy) for >> x2 to be species/breed. >> They are a 'superorder' with suborders which themselves are divided into >> infraorders, then families. >> Also they are a subdivision of an infraclass.  In other words, it's just >> too complicated and that is why >> I suggested just 'type'. > > Both {mabru} and {respa} have the "species/breed" x2. I guess I can see the > argument for both sides, but I do have an soft spot for "making place > structures as easy to memorize as possible". I think this is really an argument without much distinction. There is really no reason just to say "species/breed/type" because, really, no matter how you define it, any specifier can be reasonably used in x2 without confusion on the part of the listener. If it's a species, they'll think of it as species. If it's an order, theyll think of it as an order. If it's "herbivore" or "flyer", etc. they'll think of it as type... QED --gejyspa