Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:59 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6X5a-0004lD-MG; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:47 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6X5A-0004l6-1l for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:16 -0700 Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com ([74.125.82.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6X54-0004kf-8v for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:15 -0700 Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1032954wyj.40 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8HYzIHzJv+ja+vS5NTNBp+csI72Lqn5UuFWasCQ5QmA=; b=HlnEnViyRh+gfDwZ/4DqXU0ArB+FOfFFD2H4pN5TDtw4mUG1FJ27SfDYLMDgbkQsEc OxsZipi0bg27++KFxAgCpeybOTOUFXgl0CPlodqO95/uQXANXPtVo814wXaQsBTs7P2d BU3b6AOd/yPNo5OH/3jP6lYmkFNt1UCgg+/Yk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=iR1m4rQGo9ByyHnDXAK765Snb4DdmHTIxWTsh9EJ4254+p2RB4OZt8z7BNK5QRvStd A/uOPnEFmpszEggOvaTwdRnCaxmMq+TFKh8PdL01crEfgm1fuWx9fYAn9HUbLZyi7V6x /WDzAZLcwDYDF3O9I42SSTRF207Dof9qeAs8Q= Received: by 10.216.184.137 with SMTP id s9mr729818wem.133.1272322023184; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:47:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.37.74 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "* Hieran Makhwali" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:46:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: catalyst To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sarefo@googlemail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1006 Lines: 27 > I need a brivla for "catalyst" because I want to make/define/explain a > brivla for "enzyme", which is a type of catalyst. There are so many > scientific items that can be discussed concerning this thing, so its brivla > should be very productive for the scientific field of Lojbanistan: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzyme just coin a generic "catalyst" lujvo, then use {lanbi} to specify an enzyme. so, for example: * stoga'i -> catalyst * lanbystoga'i -> enzyme as you can see, i'm not sure if it should be {stoga'i} or {gafsto}, also the x1 of {galfi} is an event, so it's not very precise. as for {selfusra}, well that would imply a very wide range of "fermentation", and it would be specific to organic catalysts. but in a way it seems rather elegant. having been a biochemist myself, however, i think it's a bit of a stretch to define all enzymatic reactions as leading to {fusra}, eg. the enzymes that repair DNA. mi'e cirzgamanti -- Peas on Earth, Lettuce be free. You have big feet!