Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:27:09 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6fBs-0004V6-2H; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:26:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6fAp-0004Uz-G9 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:39 -0700 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6fAk-0004UU-AL for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:39 -0700 Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so938925wwi.40 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=HxvSvBqtv2nYoZDsOK1zWNHWfP8hqEu+BCrQ9N3LvW0=; b=rDHeJoC3KI+PzWJ9APZYSzxUKqwP4WInFTed7yQhERXz1z8yZKR9eOCujAu9MQ28fb X7+l7CqPh/uPXlu1DcvSKZyz5sPZaLJtif4X1WkPLtApbVVFNCXyQVFnSnIETqNhcH3u f9Fo3K/Wy63Fo2zCWMLGvYDwNOJ6Vr+iaZD6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=rW4sZd2bHcQ9hKn+A7dKO01AP1qZifMXyIWx7rUg6I/ufUR7s0ZQ7MLAotAG4JUfnC TccjBDC2cH3EPkN+987vTksRx/tmic2ItAR4wgWKqPyhsbaAfioAfJ2boIP9gzU6X9Iv BJwOEnWmigtVjyiJ2NKqKkL7N8JHFaob13InE= Received: by 10.216.184.137 with SMTP id s9mr1310671wem.133.1272353127216; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.37.74 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:25:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "* Hieran Makhwali" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:25:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: catalyst To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sarefo@googlemail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1253 Lines: 32 > I heard that an enzyme is not necessarily a protein. there are ribonucleic acids that act as catalysts, but they are relatively rare, and you wouldn't call them "enzyme". > If {selfusra} does not specifically mean organic catalysts, I'm fine with > that. not only is it restricted to bio-catalysts imo, but even to those that facilitate catabolic reactions. but as i said, enzymes are very important in anabolic reactions, and for example repair DNA etc. i'd really think it would be best to define "catalyst" in a generic way, and then specify if it is from metal, protein, or RNA. > By the way, this passage got my attention: > Over the past century, the precise classification of inorganic vs organic > compounds has become less important to scientists, primarily because the > majority of known compounds are synthetic and not of natural origin. > Furthermore, most compounds considered the purview of modern inorganic > chemistry contain organic ligands. > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inorganic_compound) i used "organic" in a non-nomenclatory way (i was tired, and hoped no-one notices). i ment it to say "part of living organisms", not organic vs inorganic in the chemist way. -- Peas on Earth, Lettuce be free. You have big feet!