Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:47 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6k2k-0008TF-Bo; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:41 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6k2Q-0008T9-6d for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:18 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com ([209.85.221.182]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6k2L-0008Sp-Bz for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:18 -0700 Received: by qyk12 with SMTP id 12so4951737qyk.21 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E5EImmLHhV7Rg0ThVkdB3T9KAfMBcYT0HPtj9k0rdyk=; b=B2vO7BUWg2/A4+/wkVD1UPhFo2sdCVlGT5KzI/CEew23s67HWBpftWZBtpBKTgVLUM 71kZHvZdFmRjIg94Di7dikk2tJqonOuQaETl+MrVIIzNfotg4STuLR3BHTrKmlJMNC0+ hT3W8ZiFQDFnKqLexNl0P0HZ1yzzzYMM5pAvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V9QMtK01slcLj8HJ2ftfY040Kbn6v4zqh5+BKoMJeSS9SgwWVJ2Y7eOTIH7gEoAal2 fIL4NXuNShljQxrJyEN8oBIidzuEjEUwlfH1WW1aaO8js4UrzfXRTEH1Tp6SuPKg9xbS vtJN6hKefSDa2r/iXzvVyins+H8PfgBM4XZRw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.184.130 with SMTP id ck2mr6831669qcb.95.1272371826857; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.82.11 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 05:37:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:37:06 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: catalyst From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 911 Lines: 24 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:25 AM, * Hieran Makhwali wrote: > > not only is it restricted to bio-catalysts imo, but even to those that > facilitate catabolic reactions. but as i said, enzymes are very > important in anabolic reactions, and for example repair DNA etc. Shouldn't those be called "analysts" instead of "catalysts"? :) When forming lujvo, it is possible to extend the literal meaning of the components, so even if "se fusra" is limited to bio-catalysts that facilitate catabolic reactions, that doesn't mean that "selfusra" can't have a wider application. Perhaps "zanfusra" and "malfusra" can distinguish the ana- and cata-bolic types. I'm not saying this is necessarily a good idea, just that one shouldn't be too literal-minded when forming lujvo, as long as the structure of the relationship is respected. I have used "kijyfusra" for "rusty", BTW. mu'o mi'e xorxes