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PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: jbovlaste checklist To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1283161024-1272740547=:34918" X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 5519 Lines: 83 --0-1283161024-1272740547=:34918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How are you going to ensure that new helpers don't start checking out words= that have already been checked by somebody else?=0A=0AMaybe you should ass= ign blocs of words to each of the helpers?=0A=0Atotus=0A=0A=0A>=0A>(This is= something I brought up before.)=0A>=0A>I have been more or less guiding my= jbovlaste works with some word list suggesting which words are likely to b= e more demanded by speakers of the natlangs to which the valsi's definition= s belong. The aim is to enrich jbovlaste entries in the order of practical = importances and help it enhance in its answerability-to-general-inquiries f= aster. The list I've been using for Lojban-English entries is the General S= ervice List (about 2000 words). I'm planning to check the Academic Word Lis= t as well in the future once I finish for GSL. But the process has been tak= ing longer than I expected. And I was wondering if somebody could collabora= te. Not necessarily doing the actual editing in jbovlaste, but even just go= ing through the list and comb out words/concepts that already have an entry= in jbovlaste. I created a page on a collaborative-text-editing website (si= milar to Google Wave but simpler and faster), which anybody can edit withou= t the hassle of registering a new account and logging in:=0A>=0A>=A0http://meetingwords.com/XKk5bOaYbd= =0A>=0A>(It's even equipped with a chat functionality.)=0A>=0A>Feel free to= come and erase the items you have confirmed exist in jbovlaste. (But pleas= e be wary of words with multiple general meanings. For instance, "reserve" = can mean "to keep back" or "to make a reservation" and can be a gloss for d= ifferent valsi.)=0A>=0A>Some words may be a gloss for a cmavo. I was sugges= ted in the past that the jbovlaste editing should be focused on brivla rath= er than cmavo. So we can leave them for later, moving them to the section "= for CMAVO" at the bottom of the page. We may also want to prioritise verbs = over their noun counterparts (e.g. "interfere" over "interference"), since = the latter can mostly be derived easily by adding a NU to the former.=0A>= =0A>mu'o mi'e tijlan=0A> --0-1283161024-1272740547=:34918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How are you going to ensure that new helpers don't start checking= out words that have already been checked by somebody else?
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Maybe you should assign blocs of words to each of the hel= pers?
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(This is something I brought up before.)

I h= ave been more or less guiding my jbovlaste works with some word list sugges= ting which words are likely to be more demanded by speakers of the natlangs= to which the valsi's definitions belong. The aim is to enrich jbovlaste en= tries in the order of practical importances and help it enhance in its answ= erability-to-general-inquiries faster. The list I've been using for Lojban-= English entries is the General Service List (about 2000 words). I'm plannin= g to check the Academic Word List as well in the future once I finish for G= SL. But the process has been taking longer than I expected. And I was wonde= ring if somebody could collaborate. Not necessarily doing the actual editin= g in jbovlaste, but even just going through the list and comb out words/con= cepts that already have an entry in jbovlaste. I created a page on a collaborative-text-editing website (similar to Google Wave but simpler and= faster), which anybody can edit without the hassle of registering a new ac= count and logging in:

 http://meetingwords.com/XKk5bOaYbd

(It's even equipped with a chat functionality.)

Feel free t= o come and erase the items you have confirmed exist in jbovlaste. (But plea= se be wary of words with multiple general meanings. For instance, "reserve"= can mean "to keep back" or "to make a reservation" and can be a gloss for = different valsi.)

Some words may be a gloss for a cmavo. I was sugge= sted in the past that the jbovlaste editing should be focused on brivla rat= her than cmavo. So we can leave them for later, moving them to the section = "for CMAVO" at the bottom of the page. We may also want to prioritise verbs= over their noun counterparts (e.g. "interfere" over "interference"), since the latter can mostly be derived easily by adding a NU to the former= .

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