Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 23 May 2010 07:46:45 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OGCRY-000786-7g; Sun, 23 May 2010 07:46:25 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sun, 23 May 2010 07:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OGCQf-00077T-P7 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 07:45:26 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OGCQY-000731-3Z for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 07:45:24 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=zumEJI4u4hcIJ7bW+2gKihjeYkKVorwZMM/QMKtPDvU= c=1 sm=0 a=zNANCjgXmV0A:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=1Qhj-OTkAAAA:8 a=JvEZOSF6lrUp5XTsD6oA:9 a=umxeOb9CZymqtd-61kHRHpWIiyUA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:58024] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id AB/D1-18491-77F39FB4; Sun, 23 May 2010 14:45:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C714D10E64 for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 10:45:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: carapace Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:45:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201005231045.07353.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Sunday 23 May 2010 08:43:24 tijlan wrote: > For this: > > x1 is a carapace (a dorsal section of the exoskeleton or shell) of animal > x2. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carapace > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carapace > > Note that a seashell (a non-carapace) too is an exoskeleton. So we want > something more specific than {calku}, {bogygai}, etc. > > I have {galcalku | galtu zei calku} in mind. What do you think? [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listX-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1008 Lines: 29 On Sunday 23 May 2010 08:43:24 tijlan wrote: > For this: > > x1 is a carapace (a dorsal section of the exoskeleton or shell) of animal > x2. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carapace > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carapace > > Note that a seashell (a non-carapace) too is an exoskeleton. So we want > something more specific than {calku}, {bogygai}, etc. > > I have {galcalku | galtu zei calku} in mind. What do you think? Any of the pairs galcalku/dizycalku, gapcalku/nitcalku, rixycalku/befcalku would make sense (the second in each being "plastron"), though the last doesn't sound quite right to me as "betfu" contrasts with "cutne". All of them have a third argument "of material x3". They could also be used for sternites and tergites (ventral and dorsal sections of arthropod shells). Probably the carapace (all the tergites of a whole tagma fused together) should be distinguished from individual tergites. Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.