Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:24:37 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OLu5X-00016U-4n; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:24:05 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OLu46-00014S-Re for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:21:45 -0700 Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.160.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OLu2i-0000yC-CD for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:21:36 -0700 Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2899507gyg.40 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oV7BZBo5xAQvJ3aTL3iHQxunBGEqGfwJp2v5vJIThjA=; b=H0RNjkGbO/PwDzyJXQAjRRDKo9RXdoxWTS6iDtKzpu/48BAPTfJRi3Vu3kWlonxqiP lVnepQxEExm2VIjScm52DO0WWSSyu2+BwdYSXunfqR9dfqAHs4dFd38BnW+iTtt0MQft 43GNZXy4BafatZ78T/6dcABt4y3jn0ZV2h3Mo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GYpiQ0jZagsvaykgY6am/cZktzYZrDzuM4yHuP+c78JJjm3aHX5ZmrlitLYEn0GpkJ QAq9ye5dWRyEnHhraAAKv60uFHF4YoDVJLSEIuS/fQ8ULJ9gDl+QfkcFtdb31qC+lbp9 XAZzRdW/+oa7i1HctF0sv8t0FXkLqWprHrzDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.145.21 with SMTP id x21mr15738948ann.232.1275985210249; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.110.9 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:20:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <308616.90849.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <941895.9144.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <308616.90849.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:20:10 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Boat rods/poles From: Yoav Nir To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d3cf183212ce04888075b6 X-Spam_score: 0.7 X-Spam_score_int: 7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: blofanpinga'a = blo (bloti=boat) + fan (falnu=sail) + pin (pinta=horizontal) + ga'a(grana=pole) Although maybe it would be better for the {pin} to precede {fan}. Anyway, the sail is held by two poles - the mast, which is vertical, and the boom, which is horizontal. The mast is talked about more often, so it gets {blofanga'a}, whereas the boom is horizontal. 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Anyway, the sail is held by two poles - the mast, which is vertical, and the boom, which is horizontal. The mast is talked about more often, so it gets {blofanga'a}, whereas the boom is horizontal. It works great in speech too: .i blofanpinga'a meaning: we've just made an uncontrolled jibe, so the boom is swinging right at your head. Duck! On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:53 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > > > Add blofanpinga'a for the boom > > I'm not really into sailing, so I don't understand this. Why {pin}? > It may help if you expand {blofanpinga'a}. > > totus > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > >> coi ro do >> >> Boats have a number of rods and poles of various >> kinds that are an important part of their 'construction'. >> >> I think it makes sense to develop lujvo for them as >> a set so as to minimize future confusion. >> >> Here is my proposal: >> >> >> 1) g1=l2=b3 blocpuga'a g2 l2 b1 (oar) >> from >> g1=l2=b3 grana g2 gi'e selcpu l1 l3 gi'e jai terblo b1 b2 >> >> 2) g1=c2=b3 bloca'ega'a g2 c2 b1 (punting pole) >> from >> g1=c2=b3 grana g2 gi'e selca'e c1 c3 gi'e jai terblo b1 b2 >> >> 3) g1=b3 blofanga'a g2 f1 f3=b1 (mast) >> from >> g1=s1=b3 grana g2 gi'e sarji lonu f1 falnu be f2 f3 kei s3 s4 gi'e jai >> terblo b1 b2 >> >> 4) g1=b3 blomatryga'a g2 m1 m2=b2 (propeller shaft) >> from >> g1=p2=b3 grana g2 gi'e selpi'o lonu m1 matra m2 kei p3 gi'e jai terblo b1 >> b2 >> >> Comments, please! >> >> totus >> >> >> >> >> > --0016e6d3cf183212ce04888075b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
blofanpinga'a =3D blo (bloti=3Dboat) + fan (falnu=3Dsa= il) + pin (pinta=3Dhorizontal) + ga'a(grana=3Dpole)

= Although maybe it would be better for the {pin} to precede {fan}.

Anyway, the sail is held by two poles - the mast, which is vertical, a= nd the boom, which is horizontal. The mast is talked about more often, so i= t gets {blofanga'a}, whereas the boom is horizontal.

It works great in speech too:
=A0=A0.i blofanpinga'= ;a
meaning: we've just made an uncontrolled jibe, so the boom= is swinging right at your head. Duck!

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:53 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:


=A0
Add blofanpinga'a for the boom
=A0
I'm not really into sailing, so I don't unde= rstand this.=A0 Why {pin}?
It may help if you expand {blofanpinga'a}.
=A0
totus

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM, A. P= IEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
coi ro do

Boats have a number = of rods and poles of various
kinds that are an important part of their &= #39;construction'.

I think it makes sense to develop lujvo for them as
a set so as to m= inimize future confusion.

Here is my proposal:

=A0
1) g1= =3Dl2=3Db3 blocpuga'a g2 l2 b1 (oar)
from
g1=3Dl2=3Db3 grana g2 g= i'e selcpu l1 l3 gi'e jai terblo b1 b2
=A0
2)=A0 g1=3Dc2=3Db3 bloca'ega'a g2 c2 b1 (punting pole)
fr= om
g1=3Dc2=3Db3 grana g2 gi'e selca'e c1 c3 gi'e jai terblo = b1 b2
=A0
3)=A0 g1=3Db3 blofanga'a g2 f1 f3=3Db1 (mast)
fromg1=3Ds1=3Db3 grana g2 gi'e sarji lonu f1 falnu be f2 f3 kei s3 s4 gi&= #39;e jai terblo b1 b2
=A0
4)=A0 g1=3Db3 blomatryga'a g2 m1 m2=3Db2 (propeller shaft)
fr= om
g1=3Dp2=3Db3 grana g2 gi'e selpi'o lonu m1 matra m2 kei p3 gi= 'e jai terblo b1 b2
=A0
Comments, please!
=A0
totus






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