Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:44:26 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OM5eU-0000Hv-SS; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:44:07 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OM5cf-0000Hj-Ht for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:42:10 -0700 Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.160.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OM5cZ-0000H8-55 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:42:08 -0700 Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so3512548gyg.40 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:41:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TdKjVaZ8b1D0HAryC2IwVhuAPw9schwUY942+gVsOUU=; b=n7zC788Jn43YxtYsERqtBAX/9AZymG0nrldcVTf6P/3sdgiQY+jVWGq38+0DsXRxdG P8rSy3q26BbfC6Uqly/uBZ1Lqoy/9EC+h0TXYJJCrJtBk2WK7J7eXI04aitswz854MkZ 0JeQykHk678rYo09nMckZC2U972PT9OXIsOe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LZVi71L2XtUhH9nGHrZoTMTryewtLGyuN9i7iAg5uB46tiPk36ff8ZY2+0AbUZcbFC 8yBddj7nHLwYAt4nwo8yYInt9HHwQiNwiUbhCkCgN+/nNIp/2mYEuCGXbqEtuLyr+fmC y+PGnh2MFDRmEMAedCU0YJf7ZOnnA/mIXxRq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.131.40 with SMTP id i40mr17671575ann.49.1276029715864; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.110.9 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:41:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <104829.9379.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <941895.9144.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <308616.90849.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201006080937.34681.phma@phma.optus.nu> <104829.9379.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:41:55 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Boat rods/poles From: Yoav Nir To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d27357efdc9d04888ad1f3 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste X-Spam_score: 2.0 X-Spam_score_int: 20 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: English uses "boom" for both the big rod on the boat, and the thin rod that holds a microphone in movie-making. You never have a sentence where context doesn't make it clear which one you mean. But I'm getting the feeling that this is not common practice in lojban. 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You never have a sentence where context doesn't make it clear which one you mean. But I'm getting the feeling that this is not common practice in lojban. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:55 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Pierre Abbat > > To: jbovlaste@lojban.org > > Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 9:37:32 AM > > Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Boat rods/poles > > > > On Tuesday 08 June 2010 04:20:10 Yoav Nir wrote: > > It works great in > > speech too: > > .i blofanpinga'a > > meaning: we've just made an > > uncontrolled jibe, so the boom is swinging > > right at your head. > > Duck! > > I'd just say "pinga'a". If we're jibing, we're on a boat, and at > > least on the > boats I've been on, there is no other horizontal bar that one > > has to alert > about. > > But there is a world beyond the boat in which you will > probably find many kinds of horizontal rods.. I don't think > a short lujvo like "pinga'a" should be 'used up' for such an > uncommon item. > > totus > > > > > --0016e6d27357efdc9d04888ad1f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
English uses "boom" for both the big rod on the = boat, and the thin rod that holds a microphone in movie-making. You never h= ave a sentence where context doesn't make it clear which one you mean.<= div>
But I'm getting the feeling that this is not common prac= tice in lojban.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:= 55 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:




----- Original Message ----
> From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma= .optus.nu>
> To: jbovlaste@lojban.org > Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 9:37:32 AM
> Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Boat rods/poles
>
> On Tuesday 08 June 2010 04:20:10 Yoav Nir wrote:
> It works great in
> speech too:
>=A0 .i blofanpinga'a
> meaning: we've just made an
> uncontrolled jibe, so the boom is swinging
> right at your head.
> Duck!

I'd just say "pinga'a". If we're jibing, we're on= a boat, and at
> least on the
boats I've been on, there is no other horizontal bar that one
> has to alert
about.

But there is a world beyond the boat in which you will
probably find many kinds of horizontal rods..=A0 I don't think
a short lujvo like "pinga'a" should be 'used up' for = such an
uncommon item.

totus





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