Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:42:03 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYKCJ-000774-KP; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:41:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYKBc-00076e-TR for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:40:49 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.161.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYKBT-000759-PY for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:40:46 -0700 Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so3368761gxk.40 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:40:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=27PcEhjBstCXGvTiosxuhhlBg+IaA8hDxjR3oFF/tfc=; b=PS0OsKkvJ8ip74kOJqBmgdE4kLRnjs6Ii/xjv6hB0ZakikRnTrchpcCUQQZKu008k3 NXm7m/rk0rUCDL70G9lo5aUQ6VFuqb9ZKgycScAa6WBbMg/roL+HbQi3smvMSrkEnnEI nbddEeLC7YORU9GHox95AZUaCgUdFWoJaBXNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=alMOgcpghQRrQ6WM68SGklXdYg6MHCY6vQizt24oFLw9ilEPJzMh5uGOmZlV0X1eAd KFNQZ3r0beVv0jWwwYu6cNThFt65+8zEpPrQJ6e2GliPFQCLyADddblsExDiAybk/J7D iQUUdLm2LC7/7N8i51P9dBQN1O/BSs5H+gQj8= Received: by 10.101.135.31 with SMTP id m31mr15386191ann.211.1278945632233; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:40:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.177.7 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:40:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <130555.40063.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100712115758.GA13842@lake.fysh.org> <267856.88875.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: John Cowan Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:40:12 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4Z45FcFMNcO8vitMbIze7ezhG9Q Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 03 To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1668 Lines: 49 "Whiskers" in English refers primarily to human facial hair, and only secondarily to the vibrissae of cats, rats, etc. The OED says: "The hair that grows on an adult man's face; formerly commonly applied to that on the upper lip, now called moustache, and sometimes to (or including) that on the chin (beard); now usu. restricted to that on the cheeks or sides of the face." On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I thought calling a mans facial hair "whiskers" was just a way to be funny > or something.  Male facial hair is not whiskers.  I'm pretty sure that no > human possesses whiskers. > I think I would tend to agree with zefram here. > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:55 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> >> > >> > A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> > >1) >> > >k1 zbikre k2=n2 >> > >k1 are the whiskers of k2=n2 >> > >from >> > >k1 kerfa k2 lo nazbi be n2 n3 ku k3 >> > >> > The distinguishing feature of whiskers is not their location but their >> > function: they are sensory organs.  This distinguishes them from most >> > nasal hair, and indeed they are found not only on faces but also on >> > forelegs.  I suggest {gaskre} ({ganse kerfa}), with a place structure >> > such as: >> > >> >     k1=g3 are the whiskers attached to k2=g1 at locus k3 for the >> >     detection of stimuli g2 under conditions g4 >> > >> But not all whiskers are sensory hairs (vibrissa).  My neighbour has a >> few whiskers on his nose, but hardly sensory.  {zbikre} would still be >> more appropriate. >> >> However, {gaskre] seems a useful lujvo whose gloss would be: >> whisker; sensory hair >> >> totus >> >> >> >> > >