Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:25:36 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYqiC-0001ET-8a; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:24:39 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYqhR-0001DJ-A5 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:23:50 -0700 Received: from kcout01.prserv.net ([12.154.55.31]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OYqh6-00087A-Co for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:23:48 -0700 Received: from [192.168.144.46] (unknown[216.239.45.19]) by prserv.net (kcout01) with SMTP id <2010071401231820100iuck3e> (Authid: usinet.kpreid); Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:23:19 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.239.45.19] Message-Id: <568EA804-F736-4E46-BA52-69A9F675FAEC@switchb.org> From: Kevin Reid To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 04 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:22:01 -0700 References: <423185.69906.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201007131746.18119.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kpreid@switchb.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 752 Lines: 24 On Jul 13, 2010, at 17:27, Warrigal wrote: > "lakyga'a", being a lujvo, means whatever we define it to mean. If we > define it as "stick of wax", it means that; if we define it as > "candle", it means that. Still, the most important feature of a candle > is that it produces light; its other important features are that its > fuel is wax and its mechanism of producing light is burning. That its fuel is wax, or that its fuel is solid and also forms its mechanical structure? Candles can be made of other materials than wax; for example, tallow and spermaceti, per dict.org. And one could perhaps burn wax in ways which would not qualify for being a candle. -- Kevin Reid