Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:40:03 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ2BJ-0002WV-67; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:39:31 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ2AL-0002VH-28 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:38:26 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ2AE-0002Eu-KU for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:38:24 -0700 Received: by vws15 with SMTP id 15so8167993vws.40 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:38:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wtPybiszew+wBE/E8K7nWTX255Xlx/4YftUW2q4E8cU=; b=d/kc/vYzZgilQnJbmYxbZFxUZOUxbnmGVYg/US9WvsjyGbOdMcJesC5kNZscn65tQe ekzPA20CzsVSpr/ynPPCvg/H1qdsXfykcUxIIyTvxsUj0FSQsW5/2zjlob9qw9gL5TVr l3N1mR7Xj/Sr4Vg4E/epTEGbYYhfDf/UbCbeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tex7tqL7IFS6WKwF8eG5I91m9w1OJ5KSk/QFKozyUKAu6apQ1AS2TS6O1Qw6J2lNg+ pY7C7im2XJ+5ePUM5dXowGU2yz88iMzZISI95SzQWj5HQ38Iy0HDr3cFU+eMv7VkGAq4 DH719fAhglKoNtR3D7qstRMpuWloDfy2Npafs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.71.136 with SMTP id h8mr8606236vcj.275.1279114691731; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.76.204 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:38:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <423185.69906.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <568EA804-F736-4E46-BA52-69A9F675FAEC@switchb.org> <201007140137.01692.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:38:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 04 From: Luke Bergen To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64757dcd3e0a4048b59183e X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 4519 Lines: 120 --0016e64757dcd3e0a4048b59183e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mi se cfipu lo nu do jimpe lo du'u lo kabri be lo litki cu srana lo grana Sorry, I still consider my lojban to be pretty rough. Basically, what on earth would make me want to refer to a bowl of liquid wax with a wick floating on a piece of buoyant material a "wax rod"? How about: jelylakse for generic "candle" lakyga'a for the specific kind of jelylakse that is a candle-stick (the hard wax stick type) flujelylakse for the floating candle type ... jelylakse for type of jelylakse. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Tuesday 13 July 2010 21:22:01 Kevin Reid wrote: >> > That its fuel is wax, or that its fuel is solid and also forms its >> > mechanical structure? >> > >> > Candles can be made of other materials than wax; for example, tallow >> > and spermaceti, per dict.org. And one could perhaps burn wax in ways >> > which would not qualify for being a candle. >> >> There is a device consisting of a container of a flammable liquid (which >> could >> be wax; there are liquid waxes), with a thing floating on the liquid and a >> wick stuck through the thing. Is it a candle? >> > > la'edi'u .e la'ede'u mintu zo lakyga'a lonu mi jimpe > >> >> Pierre >> >> -- >> I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. >> >> >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > --0016e64757dcd3e0a4048b59183e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mi se cfipu lo nu do jimpe lo du'u lo kabri be lo litki cu srana lo gra= na

Sorry, I still consider my lojban to be pretty rough.= =A0Basically, what on earth would make me want to refer to a bowl of liqui= d wax with a wick floating on a piece of=A0buoyant=A0material a "wax r= od"? =A0

How about:=A0
jelylakse for generic "can= dle"
lakyga'a for the specific kind of jelylakse that is= a candle-stick (the hard wax stick type)
flujelylakse for the fl= oating candle type
...
<rafsi for whatever mechanism the wick uses to burn t= he fuel>jelylakse for <mechanism the wick uses to burn the fuel> t= ype of jelylakse.

On Wed, Jul 14, = 2010 at 3:18 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu&= gt; wrote:
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 21:22:01 Kevin Reid wrote:
> That its fuel is wax, or that its fuel is solid and also forms its
> mechanical structure?
>
> Candles can be made of other materials than wax; for example, tallow > and spermaceti, per dict= .org. And one could perhaps burn wax in ways
> which would not qualify for being a candle.

There is a device consisting of a container of a flammable liquid (wh= ich could
be wax; there are liquid waxes), with a thing floating on the liquid and a<= br> wick stuck through the thing. Is it a candle?
la'edi'u .e la'ede'u mintu zo lakyga'a lonu mi jimpe<= br>

Pierre

--
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wal= es.






--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko= klama le bende pe denpa bu


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