Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:37:20 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZPYP-0005Er-9F; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZPXs-0005De-Ng for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:17 -0700 Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZPXj-00053T-IL for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:16 -0700 Received: by eydd26 with SMTP id d26so212560eyd.40 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ohTd5M+JK3skjbHZhpoBHrF4z/OPCuLryzniL0OXZC4=; b=C7ZRXshxPI7DK0jKGARXpXjJ43T41bxxjYQ6Ilkg2L21p2kT6OFENOjXCUX8QPsBrU ubV6CGFKGxjEwa2A0tehThmaI6ckRjIxyd7417HEVE/y0j1RMofGyCvkSuhkfUgr4FUC A9Qj5AhgWilEh7bCjlmNIy1X0VDai8Grse+3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KRSodGBT1TJteWfACiQM+90RwzeqxxID5+87YG5iiyJo94HnnfTMSwnzCB1jP8uWp3 Y70pDcY+sGcpQS/aGPkb9iGmzX58E4aT1yohj6rRcuwJJresOyfyXYp+wxiJjqB4Im4u xUZ1qyUiK/PNvA9fxtM5141lvW+Z47cbNImCk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.31.208 with SMTP id z16mr2837152ebc.14.1279204565665; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.214.20 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <423185.69906.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <568EA804-F736-4E46-BA52-69A9F675FAEC@switchb.org> <201007140137.01692.phma@phma.optus.nu> <929237.27373.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:36:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 04 From: Michael Turniansky To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2573 Lines: 82 He replied... he just accidentally put it in the quoted area... his reply started with "I agree..." and ended with "totus" But as to the issue at hand, I like the current laktytergu'i. I'm not sure why you think it doesn't make sense. --gejyspa On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Weird, I didn't see a reply. > This is what I saw: > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:44 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> >> >> mi se cfipu lo nu do jimpe lo du'u lo kabri be lo litki cu srana lo grana >> >> Sorry, I still consider my lojban to be pretty rough.  Basically, what on >> earth would make me want to refer to a bowl of liquid wax with a wick >> floating on a piece of buoyant material a "wax rod"? >> >> I agree.  But nobody has yet commented on {laktytergu'i} which is already >> in jbovlaste. >> That is shown as 'g3=l1 is a candle/wax light with wax source l2'. which >> seems to be wrong as >> the x3 of gusni is the source of the light i.e. the burning candle.  So >> {laktergu'i} should be the candle >> and lakygu'i the candle light.  Simlarly {ctilytergu'i} would be an oil >> lamp. >> >> totus >> How about: >> jelylakse for generic "candle" >> lakyga'a for the specific kind of jelylakse that is a candle-stick (the >> hard wax stick type) >> flujelylakse for the floating candle type >> ... >> jelylakse for >> type of jelylakse. >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Pierre Abbat >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tuesday 13 July 2010 21:22:01 Kevin Reid wrote: >>>> > That its fuel is wax, or that its fuel is solid and also forms its >>>> > mechanical structure? >>>> > >>>> > Candles can be made of other materials than wax; for example, tallow >>>> > and spermaceti, per dict.org. And one could perhaps burn wax in ways >>>> > which would not qualify for being a candle. >>>> >>>> There is a device consisting of a container of a flammable liquid (which >>>> could >>>> be wax; there are liquid waxes), with a thing floating on the liquid and >>>> a >>>> wick stuck through the thing. Is it a candle? >>> >>> la'edi'u .e la'ede'u mintu zo lakyga'a lonu mi jimpe >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> >>>> -- >>>> I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >> > >