Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:06:21 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZUgp-0006wn-FG; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:05:55 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZUfu-0006wd-JI for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:04:55 -0700 Received: from n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com ([68.142.237.93]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZUfq-0006vx-Ie for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:04:54 -0700 Received: from [68.142.237.89] by n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2010 20:04:44 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.142] by t5.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2010 20:04:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp110.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2010 20:04:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 922383.43638.bm@omp110.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56782 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2010 20:04:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1279224283; bh=XUPnv2E36Igz0NAUAT8rG/ch/EUJFpymyzzuMRbM2k4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5LG7Clj23QlRZJll3ylYzdzverxPBpxzcgTfBnaPmw3eZYp6GgO4KdcEOuiIRkY0OUWNXK00/JlkONmAGQ9VztQKkQihl6C6qaVuErKudOWdrX7EtG2aKPEqGa3uJHl9hVVQ7cDUNVvfF+SIQ29dIGfK7ETkGJqefSz99eg+gNg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=faN1XvCOFU3jap80xW+VWdTDtOZCX19MZOZGyNLd/ul9nroFYwFmsR5rZf6fDiEoQ6dC89P/WPVKgVAlvcYWHn2gGHTz8+ZaNANnWEALPwuYb5LiZQNBHH2kDKOW9AljNIolh1GxUCWYPY05/EJsyo7fcOXymj85yV7jpZAWFt0=; Message-ID: <727786.56457.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EvPid78VM1kBx_p4LVkjtKfAsriNPcWVOdQYxAt_zuUJhby 49Zc- Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:04:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 References: <423185.69906.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201007131746.18119.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:04:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 04 To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <201007131746.18119.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 660 Lines: 23   > > 3)  > > j1=s1 sudjba j2 > > j1=s1 is a currant/dried berry of plant j2 > > from > > j1=s1 jbari j2 gi'e sudga s2 > >   > > drop s2 > > Currants and gooseberries are both grosulari. Neither "sudgrute" (which is in > my edition, from CVS years ago) nor "sudjba" means specifically "currant"; > grapes are both, and prunes are sudgrute jenai sudjba. To say "dried currant" > specifically I'd say "sudga grosulari" (which can also mean "dried > gooseberry" but I don't know that anyone makes them). > You've lost me.  I can find no reference to grosulari anywhere.  What's wrong with defining sudjba as dried berry?  Isn't a grape a berry? totus