Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:20:01 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpVX-00056V-1D; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:19:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpUg-00056P-KW for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:18:42 -0700 Received: from n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com ([68.142.237.123]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpUd-00055p-2q for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:18:42 -0700 Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2010 18:18:32 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.146] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2010 18:18:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp204.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2010 18:18:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 22010.46209.bm@omp204.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12611 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2010 18:18:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1279304311; bh=brTirHB6MifOVjedFXJhDD24iJLg091tur79fOCAkDs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zvjFow6UD9TGBIXdRU8r8u/+sDLYkF76g80XRqpnuZvFXY8+a8IbyipKi+w+EE+EB4ZamAtp3VYWv70TBOb80aj9C0JOVhKZ+YycSoCfhw8bmnlpUNP1bu7cvM6gFunrHjHyoORY+KK/h3+tZQRmNVsEYfj69XcP8ZeHbt4Ikus= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iqCvJqoDh0ESmkOnN10Iq5pSHt/KB1tqdefdF6i4i0few0ZaK6JKxVS8emP2fknBz+EPeCkf+uauFZ/kolC2P/WV2ZEgYgKE+92fF48O/1LYN9e3tXGPAlIWtT6WYia1q9E24W6aOb/wn8dipPh6DYXm818ENJqV7wjv4cOOvVM=; Message-ID: <894277.11558.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XUOK8GkVM1mNKQZKZUAWTe4a3wfPimcpNMULoDiXdTKpL3W STeXfUISakqy30c1rlsiSA3zNVHlD8WlA4Z6O9mqnKMhFpRwq0.4SjNKa9SR MMDdxerfdxdQR4xnIHrdk75AcMbhxyPOfX1PHSyQ1X51mu7t5xxZ_un1QCWm hy3Wqq1NnKXRBgJD3AY_Lqg5TFhwuTSDKmLAAO3PGoRiGzCeK7QQbNaVJBs9 H9o2qfoSq327_1rmM.rm4I6BINH46BTzJ5UoVyZFkn7vusrrtZNL4GdGuzWe bu8TE5Srrre6_EmJ6Mw-- Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:18:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:18:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 04 To: jbovlaste@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 805 Lines: 25 Forget the previous message.  I hit SEND accidently. > > On Friday 16 July 2010 10:57:41 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > Dried grapes are either raisins, sultanas or currants.  So a fu'ivla based > > > on Vitis would be appropriatre for raisins, sultanas and currants which I > > > think would be good enough for Alice.  Something like {sudga vtistivi}. > > > (The lojban wiki seems to be down, and I don't remember the acceptable > > > type 4 forms). > > > > A word can't begin with "vt", and we don't need a fu'ivla for "grape"; >there's > > > > already a lujvo, "vanjba". > > Trouble is that the proposed {vanjba} is based on the gismu {vanji}.  But not all grapes are processed into wine.  In particular, the Corinth grapes that are dried to become currants are NEVER used to make wine. totus