Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:45:27 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpu2-0005Lh-E8; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:44:57 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZptD-0005Lb-5M for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:44:03 -0700 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpt5-0005L4-SO for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:44:02 -0700 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (unknown [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:2a0:c9ff:feab:76e2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D871994791 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:43:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o6GIhaL0016125 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:43:36 +0200 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id o6GIhaOL016124 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:43:36 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:43:36 +0200 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 04 Message-ID: <20100716184335.GO16391@nvg.org> References: <894277.11558.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <894277.11558.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1110 Lines: 29 On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:18:31AM -0700, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > Forget the previous message.  I hit SEND accidently. > > > > On Friday 16 July 2010 10:57:41 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > > Dried grapes are either raisins, sultanas or currants.  So a fu'ivla based > > > > on Vitis would be appropriatre for raisins, sultanas and currants which I > > > > think would be good enough for Alice.  Something like {sudga vtistivi}. > > > > (The lojban wiki seems to be down, and I don't remember the acceptable > > > > type 4 forms). > > > > > > A word can't begin with "vt", and we don't need a fu'ivla for "grape"; > >there's > > > > > > > already a lujvo, "vanjba". > > > > > Trouble is that the proposed {vanjba} is based on the gismu {vanji}.  But > not all grapes are processed into wine.  In particular, the Corinth grapes > that are dried to become currants are NEVER used to make wine. There is no need, a priori, for something to be pressed into wine for it to be a {vanjba}. -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Information wants to be anthropomorphized!