Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:29:57 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Obfuz-00007j-HM; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:29:33 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ObfuI-000050-Dy for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:28:47 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ObfuD-0008Lr-Rt for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:28:46 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38so3352165qyk.19 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:28:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AhQ2YgNbq9KPne9rhEOvdwccqpPv1VT8ejpXqxvzAc0=; b=C/otqr9gMTavZ2sgxyZiT0WL5dQJj2ct14RSmEnIYcsXr2x6dDmZkYBCGx2pN/w8BC LQP7KoHSThxmlbO9rPpsDpASjEKupYaxvT82IcZOqU5oz8jpPpWMuB6MUNVqCOHlNhgb /tEWixF7Rff6LTfS+xpl2gKU/AD5OMpW/AdIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fUU5XYxVx88gb5F6obgoiEsQIELc+UjKKHR6JltqTA3MY/tMm+70XWoIwxXwVPxuAu P/He5WxWF3xZqNYmon+93ukMLKKBcQOd76wjtLEXzSl51iryiQ5Nr8KHjsH0WZ8nbQeN /lXf5qPhklwtaGOLz24q3fkJl71/l33ra2zZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.9 with SMTP id r9mr553095qar.151.1279744115413; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.78.146 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:28:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100721191512.GS16391@nvg.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:28:35 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: stuffed animal From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 896 Lines: 29 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > That's a good point.  Why was it defined that way. Just poor planning. > It seems like most words > of this type usually describe the state (cikna comes to mind) and allow for > -bi'o or -gau to turn it into doing the thing or becoming the state. Can you remember, without looking, whether "zutse" is supposed to be state or change of state? (In fact I can't be sure even after looking.) > Last I had heard, there is a %0 chance that a gismu definition will be > changed. Some gismu definitions have been changed in minor ways in the past. > If this is still true, what would be the best way to go about > this? The way I go about it is just to ignore bad definitions. (Although by bringing this up I suppose I'm not ignoring it. I should have said nothing and let nature take its course.) mu'o mi'e xorxes