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From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 08
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> >
> > 4) tolpa'a (dread/apprehension)
> >
> > p1 tolpa'a p2 p3
> > p1 dreads/is apprehensive about event p2, expected likelyhood being p3 (0-1)
> 
> the x3 is nonsense for "pacna", and the nonsense carries on to "tolpa'a".

I've never understood your objection to the p3 (as you know).  You can dread 
an event irrespetive of it being likely to happen (e.g. p3=0.9) or unlikely 
to happen (e.g. p3=0.1).  The dreading is about consequence not likelyhood.

> 
> 
> > 5) nonpa'a (hopeless/desperate)
> >
> > p1 nonpa'a p2
> > p1 feels neutral about event p2, expected likelyhood being p3 (0-1)
> 
> non- or nor-?
> 
> Someone desperate about something does not feel neutral about it.

Agreed, 'hopeless/desparate' was from a previous effort and shou;ld not 
have been there.

I don't think nor- as this is not a scalar midpoint between hoping something 
will happen and being indifferent.  Wouldn't that be 'somewhat hopeful'?

totus