Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:35:00 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwIM1-0004Cg-5K; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:34:37 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwILY-0004CY-Jk for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:34:09 -0700 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwILG-0004BR-1I for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:34:08 -0700 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so1306060wwb.10 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:33:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qEQwIYTGG7rasVGy6J31wnIr7IGtEtSJrqPC9EdES3Y=; b=lmh0m6XxDUi23QB3UY1hkTcniulY7hOs2f3rX/JBJCz9TK6PihDMLDXz4MRSzi0UM3 RFjqEz8aD3zFxp8UMAkOoYeC2ZwL6KMOLuYaZ9eEe3w/FqbJon68yx5tT990UHdWqxPG PrWhe6V80pklaIO/WOIjuP/U14a6q1tx1Jt0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ST9ZHm5jTuDCkEvNSNq4DzyYp3e/MZTL1E4L2H6E1Q1/Kt6o41kLuTngtmCSr09D96 V25yJSESW+NTnCsVqwkb6cgkrhGBCYmihaWra6TYFTAl0ObOB6V99KmwS6qhvNmO6Qqq 5TD3NR8iR8ubn0Dl+b/HCkzhXW/hn/Lw7BKmU= Received: by 10.227.156.14 with SMTP id u14mr3179695wbw.55.1284658423318; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:33:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.149.67 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:33:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:33:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: selckiku@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1205 Lines: 31 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I think there should be a specific word for "crab". Looking at the words in > various languages, I came up with two: "kangre'o" from Spanish, and > "sartanu" from Arabic. Which do you think is better? Trying them both on my tongue, I prefer "kangre'o". I feel like we've had a bunch of the shape CVC/CVCV lately but I don't remember anything else shaped CVC/CCV'V, that's a pretty shape. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, * Hieran Makhwali wrote: > i haven't followed the discussion lately (if there was any), but > wasn't it considered bad style to use brazenly cultural fu'ivla for > non-cultural items? Opinions differ of course, but I consider Pierre's fu'ivla the epitome of good style. They're some of my favorite words, and I feel he's added a lot to the beauty of our language. I'd consider sacrificing aesthetics for supposed cultural neutrality to be quite silly in a language that already has short rafsi for some cultures and only long fu'ivla for others. And I'm not so convinced anyway that there's something ideally neutral about scientific Latin. mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o