Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:28:20 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwRcD-0001MV-G7; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:57 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwRbm-0001MM-MT for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:31 -0700 Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwRbi-0001Lt-O6 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:30 -0700 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so2033821iwn.40 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rAf6+RdjPRWAXo+Oqg3eie3OMrugrOwDA/GuhnrlYCM=; b=vVE7AXPv+qPavAwsLZ/c9CrPTjxd71R/7K5nqt+197r8aZzPcItOfnqSw9GBfLWM3K cCF17B4D5cgY4wQOcn1+pOdl+k1QEtRZgsY3SV3oE1GAFQV0MbPlk2Zgfr3llOVwp4wX CionGvqUQ9mgt6uRtQLAru4ApRI1OanFu3TWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Bd9XxYXDxMoWwyyaQiW1ZQRfB6EMTbC261/Yu6Vz2UpsdG+p/4sCfBPp0+phfUaus3 oHW5lKp30emL4uYRogH1J435FPsYBxaxUZsrN0DRr6KVmEToQAnqpp+4vq2tbxAMj3WM lkCK/Io0RHJ5kr2nE5OUTJGRba5Kfu2FALzyk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.14.71 with SMTP id f7mr261884iba.118.1284694044788; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.207.84 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:27:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab From: Jonathan Jones To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cbbc2f590904906c2451 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 3987 Lines: 100 --00221532cbbc2f590904906c2451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > > > > You're welcome to provide a more accurate description of the sea-dwelling > > crustacean with the well-known trait of spending it's entire life > attached > > to some surface such as the hull of a ship or the skin of a whale. > > At the risk of turning this conversation productive, I'll propose za'e > "blojukni". > Actually, I kind of like that. I'd even be willing to bet any jbopre would immediately think of barnacle from that name. ki'ecai doi selckiku > We don't need any five part lujvo here, there are more than a thousand > two-parters that end in -jukni, and more than a million three-parters, > so for goodness' sake find something in that space. > > And we certainly don't need any -kem-! I would go so far as to say > that -kem- and -bor- should be elided in ANY lujvo that's meant for > long term use, unless there's a plausible useful distinct meaning of > the -kem-less version, which is quite rare. > mi'e la stela selckiku > mu'o > Meh. I was just offering quick tanru suggestions for the various creatures, to show my point. I fully expect that better, shorter descriptive names can be ascribed to all the aforementioned creatures, were we to actively try to do so. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --00221532cbbc2f590904906c2451 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Stela S= elckiku <selckik= u@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You're welcome to provide a more accurate description of the sea-d= welling
> crustacean with the well-known trait of spending it's entire life = attached
> to some surface such as the hull of a ship or the skin of a whale.

At the risk of turning this conversation productive, I'll propose= za'e
"blojukni".

Actually, I kind of like tha= t. I'd even be willing to bet any jbopre would immediately think of bar= nacle from that name. ki'ecai doi selckiku
=A0
We don't need any five part lujvo here, there are more than a thousand<= br> two-parters that end in -jukni, and more than a million three-parters,
so for goodness' sake find something in that space.

And we certainly don't need any -kem-! =A0I would go so far as to say that -kem- and -bor- should be elided in ANY lujvo that's meant for
long term use, unless there's a plausible useful distinct meaning of the -kem-less version, which is quite rare.=A0

mi'e la stela selckiku
mu'o

Meh. I was just offering quick tanru sug= gestions for the various creatures, to show my point. I fully expect that b= etter, shorter descriptive names can be ascribed to all the aforementioned = creatures, were we to actively try to do so.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le= bende pe denpa bu

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