Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:30:02 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwRdr-0001Om-2J; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:39 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwRdO-0001Ob-4Q for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:10 -0700 Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwRdK-0001OM-DC for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:09 -0700 Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so2035861iwn.40 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iDMR0f+NI4G+psSdGhiUoXnGp41ECWSe0mINPxMeM8E=; b=QdI6G0s2JF6k4DCKuGxnAGWUnsdLWh4gM4BkX9qp72/IG/aJAcOlKR18j9YzqXRGmv f1HvqDmbsuZ2d9isOTCKe41pVMOCFK2NuYHYOTJe8ASU/akAnkCEWbL2QHFutT1yiKc/ iWDUylWE3QSIYPBUx3k7mQZBtJ/2Jjnfhf5lc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F1FAm+YY4MS/jF+n/N2RHgOjfwBQjMVJQKURb/UAKrPwQ+USLmSkybx0Frqk00MLk9 PPNdqiFmE/dpdKhY6ox/UtW/buzfMN2bFI3lLC6Lr5P5MNgvkDcsj97Hq3B+pJzuXfC9 MXPczGZeQFsIdwwIEzA8tA13zhHsvOFTQoEO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.160.205 with SMTP id o13mr4518938ibx.15.1284694145069; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.207.84 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:29:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009162323.12444.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201009162323.12444.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:29:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab From: Jonathan Jones To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502f68129731604906c2a3a X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2870 Lines: 77 --00504502f68129731604906c2a3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 16 September 2010 17:13:30 Remo Dentato wrote: > > I had used {xasyjukni} as well but then I realized that crabs are not > > arachnids, they are crustacean. I guess that at the time the gismu was > > created, they didn't realize it. > > > > I guess it's too late now, right? > > One reason I'd like to get the gismu making program working is to make an > experimental gismu for "crustacean". I think that expanding "jukni" to > include all arachnids was correct, but expanding it to all arthropods > except > insects was wrong. The other groups of arthropods, besides those three, are > the myriapods (for which I coined the word "sortupcinki"), the other > chelicerates (horseshoe crab, sea scorpion, and maybe sea spider), and the > extinct trilobites. > > Pierre > I fully agree that {jukni} is much, much too general, and would love to have a gismu specifically for each class of arthopod. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --00504502f68129731604906c2a3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:
On Thursday 16 September 2010 17:13:30 Remo Dentato wrote= :
> I had used {xasyjukni} as well but then I realized that crabs are not<= br>
> arachnids, they are crustacean. I guess that at the time the gis= mu was
> created, they didn't realize it.
>
> I guess it's too late now, right?

One reason I'd like to get the gismu making program working is to= make an
experimental gismu for "crustacean". I think that expanding "= ;jukni" to
include all arachnids was correct, but expanding it to all arthropods excep= t
insects was wrong. The other groups of arthropods, besides those three, are=
the myriapods (for which I coined the word "sortupcinki"), the ot= her
chelicerates (horseshoe crab, sea scorpion, and maybe sea spider), and the<= br> extinct trilobites.

Pierre

I fully agree that {jukni} is much, much too = general, and would love to have a gismu specifically for each class of arth= opod.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a= 9;o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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