Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:56:37 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwZXi-000597-DU; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:55:51 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwZWc-00058x-JS for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:54:43 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwZWT-00058Z-61 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:54:42 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so772240qyk.19 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:54:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6emVx1JUhS4HvYHXJqTxMKa8iLnOaDxcQPSb1eysqQw=; b=DjXM0gbHzjPqmCwwiAzV8o5ffRP1fW2+8Y9SDET0FyPb8uTXU0ATIv2SylEOtlwrI2 OQ84BFRATglKI/v5oMZ60jVAegh+6w2DhN9E+tiH7pfFND1Jz1fo1mfug7iLUfRaYmeM /lFxmh5V/tUj4XQh4LdCsRtYQncBr1K/Swbq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lBdjOFy6khnl+cyrRJR0WLkM5mSp3Z63iWO7j9qTalVrD2EPZ4dkFgou0yfwpBoVJH Hk6N3uTZgSWB0ZgIBaUmqtnQhAwUqSBSPZCYhEx+o3C/NZHms+HiJtT/kUfQ6DHN+2M5 hyTMugK7hpzPYz+X+47PW/be/UL/FvDauqWHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.238.197 with SMTP id kt5mr3555316qcb.25.1284724466465; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.69 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 04:54:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201009162323.12444.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:54:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab From: Remo Dentato To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rdentato@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1388 Lines: 42 I'm going to use xasyjukni for crustacean (unless there are arthropods that live in the sea) and use {cukla xasyjukni } for "crab". (I still would have loved to use "kangre'o" or even "sartanu" as initially proposed). On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Thursday 16 September 2010 17:13:30 Remo Dentato wrote: >> > I had used {xasyjukni} as well but then I realized that crabs are not >> > arachnids, they are crustacean. I guess that at the time the gismu was >> > created, they didn't realize it. >> > >> > I guess it's too late now, right? >> >> One reason I'd like to get the gismu making program working is to make an >> experimental gismu for "crustacean". I think that expanding "jukni" to >> include all arachnids was correct, but expanding it to all arthropods >> except >> insects was wrong. The other groups of arthropods, besides those three, >> are >> the myriapods (for which I coined the word "sortupcinki"), the other >> chelicerates (horseshoe crab, sea scorpion, and maybe sea spider), and the >> extinct trilobites. >> >> Pierre > > I fully agree that {jukni} is much, much too general, and would love to have > a gismu specifically for each class of arthopod. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > >