Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:28:54 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Owbv3-0000MW-Q2; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:28:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwbuO-0000LR-Lp for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:25 -0700 Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.213.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwbuI-0000C5-0d for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:23 -0700 Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so1301076yxh.40 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oB2VRMHAKyJUI41NwhHp+TiTmus+tecQoKEnzb81XVw=; b=mJkMQB8fhJrRTUj6gctXq+u3zp9CBRW/XC2dqMnXV0m3kv+FTbxOfbtFFul5KRzXBF OVfgdl3q+z8esx6/KRjzUi3HPyYNzrSGXxaplBw8kW+rgYKqRERfC+DD1WCDXy/e0BK5 U8y5zy7IKH0PBqA+Z+jMT+OXE7wm0zhzi9Wus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NmXdA3Lmu+7ScMsFHqvGQ7c/UqGwF5FfwMQb1YkPK2Bt62l7vcouLCxd6E99D78AkP NQNTuyCk7IvLmGiMx5bqZWmFupoKAD8iDvuU6UtHVYQRrprRza62xU1YL+XMPq6K/ViR yCNv+Ywr7gGywzjt6U37pe8u+rokeO3aDJaz4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.11.16 with SMTP id o16mr5705046ybi.202.1284733631611; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.133 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009171011.43572.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20100917125735.GB2570@mercury.ccil.org> <201009171011.43572.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:27:11 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab From: Jonathan Jones To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ade4be47740490755b82 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2709 Lines: 74 --000e0cd6ade4be47740490755b82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 17 September 2010 08:57:35 John Cowan wrote: > > Remo Dentato scripsit: > > > I'm going to use xasyjukni for crustacean (unless there are arthropods > > > that live in the sea) and use {cukla xasyjukni } for "crab". > > > > Horseshoe crabs and the aforementioned sea-spiders are both arthropod > > classes that are marine, and as I said before, xasyjukni definitely > > suggests sea spiders rather than crustaceans to me. > > Horseshoe crabs (which, despite the English name, are not crabs) are > chelicerates, like spiders, and unlike crabs. Whether sea spiders are > chelicerates is currently under dispute. "xasyjukni" could mean either of > them, rather than crustaceans, to me. > > Pierre > -- > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. > Both of these comments say to me that we need a gismu for "crustacean". -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --000e0cd6ade4be47740490755b82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:
On Friday 17 September 2010 08:57:35 John Cowan wrote: > Remo Dentato scripsit:
> > I'm going to use xasyjukni for crustacean (unless there are a= rthropods
> > that live in the sea) and use {cukla xasyjukni } for "crab&q= uot;.
>
> Horseshoe crabs and the aforementioned sea-spiders are both arthropod<= br> > classes that are marine, and as I said before, xasyjukni definitely > suggests sea spiders rather than crustaceans to me.

Horseshoe crabs (which, despite the English name, are not crabs) are<= br> chelicerates, like spiders, and unlike crabs. Whether sea spiders are
chelicerates is currently under dispute. "xasyjukni" could mean e= ither of
them, rather than crustaceans, to me.

Pierre
--
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

Both of these comments say to me that we need= a gismu for "crustacean".

--
mu'o m= i'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
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