Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:55 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OwbuK-0008Od-EN; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:27:20 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Owbto-0008NX-V3 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:26:49 -0700 Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Owbtj-0008Eu-F9 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:26:48 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so907801qyk.19 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tfZyEW5PrItQnD6J8I7zIVm3IAhQYsNTC5sm1KTARB0=; b=dEc12mynmlYKQd1peTI83/061kPMk+55xa3FX2kpOpljEKXl2qNFmmrP70PvY0te4P mYti6tA3n16sGu16GnTjGjh5CFWQlRd90UXpS059RcRWkYmM+fBxNIXIQ4SczyfuLI5T k065EzSAZWRQ0PCfxg32djj3baTGRyKwOb5Oo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=psv2vKdxaoJICodFG9+eG9eekVXK0JE6eMLzv8eLSwLB7x4SFNMp6K15kRpdlGX/Fj boSaRGtWoepetWBpUSqAvN8et1hfNQ/DZj1vxMlZLQynivKlTgPJoMGHGSzTN7gLQ7H+ iHbZyZfAfRCjKOQbY+EXQDUPRbQWbAfs3ogpo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.80.133 with SMTP id t5mr3377537qak.341.1284733596972; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.69 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100917125735.GB2570@mercury.ccil.org> References: <201009161103.17292.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201009162323.12444.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20100917125735.GB2570@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:26:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: crab From: Remo Dentato To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rdentato@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1554 Lines: 45 Sigh. It seems that consensus have be reached tough :( At one point in time I understood that jukni *do* relate to crustacean and not only to spiders but I might be wrong. Actually I really don't mind. To me is more important that whatever I use has a chance to appear (and being accepted) in the jbovlaste at some point in the future. I also like "braxiura" if the linnean taxonomy is the way to go. I just set up a doodle poll to, at least, recap how many are for or against each word. Instead of tanru i put the lujvo. I hope I got all the proposals that have been made so far. http://www.doodle.com/mua8c4eqerwz93xk The poll is just indicative, I would like to use the result to translate "the big crab wizard" in "le vrinu smani blozeile'a", but I hope it will help to see if a consensus might emerge. remo On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:57 PM, John Cowan wrote: > Remo Dentato scripsit: > >> I'm going to use xasyjukni for crustacean (unless there are arthropods >> that live in the sea) and use {cukla xasyjukni } for "crab". > > Horseshoe crabs and the aforementioned sea-spiders are both arthropod > classes that are marine, and as I said before, xasyjukni definitely > suggests sea spiders rather than crustaceans to me. > > -- > I am expressing my opinion.  When my            John Cowan > honorable and gallant friend is called,         cowan@ccil.org > he will express his opinion.  This is           http://www.ccil.org/~cowan > the process which we call Debate.                   --Winston Churchill > > > >