Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:33:29 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OxkEe-000609-0j; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:33:00 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OxkDy-0005xB-Hy for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:32:19 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.161.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OxkDs-0005gs-K6 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:32:18 -0700 Received: by gxk1 with SMTP id 1so2665304gxk.40 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:32:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hf1/uXxdlO8PsnGwLImggdxApHeF1oam9en90e1sUDI=; b=uAm8af/Qxp8beRBb6Fcawqt7pZS7Kp9YU1wcyN9JusNJ7FB4MeiTlZc5qzce/avPBl 25sYhp3MJnSX1ZoWZxdxisjtVd3zTo9bnWgVLf3ujtjzlt11F2ndlWeY2BK1sPswod1c buBYvUYONlVVLmpss9/7oFcTSjpTkz7ksHLwo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=V43C04cBHNtnIj5TIRrrGrnRsBbX4DsHzo9Eiur+EC2bOBSCkgpXTUyREgZNZBgkq6 0UhlSyp/qVkOKGgJUTFFWQdE2Bram03XYttNsgiIw8nqa+Q1Il3az4mqGzQ26dPXtG+b eFZ81oQPLttyZN6kAilpLgqgnjwkSYsTP1Gho= Received: by 10.101.70.10 with SMTP id x10mr9752834ank.53.1285003926144; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:32:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.94.8 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009201248.49687.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <589275.89862.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201009201112.09884.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201009201248.49687.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: John Cowan Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:31:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IMQK1bx9-cce0aXmyV3s888OLFU Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 10 To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 897 Lines: 38 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 20 September 2010 11:39:31 Jorge Llambías wrote: >> The worst part is that jbi is the rafsi for jibni, not for jbini. >> >> Probably the most confusing pair of gismu, perhaps competing with >> ractu/ratcu and grana/garna. Related meanings and similar forms. Unfortunately, I wasn't around when the gimsu, er, gismu were built, or I would have insisted on weeding out all such metathesis-identical pairs. At present there are 20: bartu bratu bruna burna cikre ckire cinta cnita citno ctino garna grana gerku greku jbini jibni kruji kurji marji mraji pelji pleji sakci skaci samcu smacu sarji sraji stura sutra tarti trati tirna trina tisna tsina stali tsali stani tsani I think it's important that if we do end up making new gismu (something I am *not* in favor of), we don't make any more such pairs.