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From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 12
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> >
> > 1
> > )jdijmaji
> >
> > jm1=jd1 (mass/jo'u) assemble/meet/gather/[form a caucus] at location jm2 
from
> > locations jm2 to make decision(s) jd2 (du'u) about matter jd3 (event/state).
> >
> > gloss:
> > caucus
> > assembly; organized to make decision
> > meeting; organized to make decision
> >
> >
> > from
> > jm1=jd1 jmaji jm2 jm3 tezu'e lonu jdice jd2 jd3
> 
>   It's alright, but (and without having seen the Alice text where it
> is used in context) I wonder if the decision making might be more
> germane than the location, entailing your jm2 should be put at the
> end?  *shrug*  I guess it's a close call.

Isn't that always the problem with new lujvo.  Either choose the most 
'natural' place order, or stay as close to the place orders of the originating 
gismu.
If it's a close call, I would stick to the latter.
> 
> 
> > 3) naijgi
> >
> > j1 is a patriot of nation n1
> >
> > from
> > j1 jgira lonu n1 natmi n2
> >
> 
>   Your English doesn't match your lojban, but I wonder if n2 should
> be/must be/shouldn't be =j1?

Ouch! Then I'm surprised you didn't offer a alternative with better English:)

I find the structure of gismu definitions frequently makes the use of good 
English difficult.

totus