Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:04:43 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PL1uA-0003nL-6h; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:04:06 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PL1tQ-0003n6-R2 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:03:20 -0800 Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.213.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PL1tK-0003kG-PR for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:03:20 -0800 Received: by yxd39 with SMTP id 39so8210959yxd.40 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:03:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3TRFv0Yysjioo9oQcKzoLS+hupXrV2Rdf0ZaGmXNl5Y=; b=hkYf2LUqrxmU3Gp5HrPvn4yGI1jasaD4J+ghDJN/fDw7iWnqLRgfRNPx+72LVg34ch magKBxD+D6UTR68PtLMgZ/9hCLYa7QchKgdNRXRbawaSfH8NnetAsxJBQt5wTX4Rxl8u VdHTheQBZPE1Na2qtPTO3IjWJ4l6AZJmr0kQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R7jY0YT64KFrt0d27bAztXV8Bh1ln5iIgAxOzTvSsFGJ9iJ6ZUhnf9swxq3r8rFTLO dr3FNmjTGc2oHV7aN+XSHud9lWV9LhW2HNstD65n88ShY8vABoRGEJhEefsjTyijUVa/ aWsv8L3UUUijHE+nD3BncedPLB8Y15NIAWuEg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.237.8 with SMTP id k8mr12067anh.43.1290553388824; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.44.16 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:03:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20101123224830.GV8367@nvg.org> References: <770898.27481.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20101123224830.GV8367@nvg.org> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:03:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FDTyMB8jKwtJYFddpEVhTpFDVaY Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: fu'ivla for liquors From: Craig Daniel To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: teucer@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 604 Lines: 15 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:36:18PM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote: > >> .uiski is invalid (because ski is the rafsi for skicu, so a cup of >> whiskey would become a delightful description-cup), > > {uiski} is not a valid lujvo because *-ui- doesn't have rafsi form. So {uiski} is in fact a well-formed type 4 fu'ivla. The first sentence there is true, obviously. The fu'ivla appears to nonetheless fail a sort of backwards slinku'i test, in that ".uiski kabri" falls apart into ".ui skikabri," and "skikabri" is a valid lujvo.