Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:12:51 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PM6Wh-0005Th-CG; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:12:19 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PM6Vl-0005Ta-BL for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:11:21 -0800 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PM6Vh-0005TO-LW for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:11:21 -0800 Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so55730wwb.10 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:11:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EzDpuOdxHsh0BAEBZOOrDAmQxKxjfwnwFYshKsF+Ks8=; b=Pv2cQJ2yfWy5gmUAx9itt1Li5Kby3q1PeYoyRIPQxeFvqC8JMvgnU2ipgrf7CNgQ6B ih76ffgCabH5XSa0RN4jh167rM9UI3Y3R6lsa98/GZGKV2iE6S9xtiPgvMWn7KuvMk5p 7bkuvPHNEdQUuRxKQUSgp+YmTqNy8VLlLrTY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sWT2BVcg7Z7lut6WN7cFx/JWbwjkKW1UudXLS1Ybv71qy+N452xPVeTJh50wbkDEO8 E5Vi6d6VBRcSwDM8FMgAXErq97nSFqUqKWf18ctPkUUDSELcujpqDJP/BGMcQ9qq3f5e I3xtW7RGmRD8AhyuF6knywPbacA0yuyu8osUc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.144.65 with SMTP id y1mr2968673wbu.199.1290809470889; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:11:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <959068.5866.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <399774.23982.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201011241940.53956.phma@phma.optus.nu> <959068.5866.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:11:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 15 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 991 Lines: 32 On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:23 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> > >> > I think x3 is the size of the cart, so: >> > ko'a klani ko'e lo ckilu be lo nu ko'a se carce lo xo kau da poi ko'i nilbra >> > ke'a >> >> But what do we use for ko'i? "lo cmalu cu nilbra" seems wrong. Is "lo >> ka cmalu cu nilbra" right? > > How would the answer to your question effect my proposed definition > (i.e. how would you redefine it)? I wouldn't have an x3 there. I'm trying to figure out how the x3 is meant to be used. > Also, what is x2?. A number: "li pa", "li re", etc. > In {klani} 'measured by' to me means 'the person doing > the measuring' - which doesn't seem very useful. No, it's a number (or some other quantifier, as "li so'i"), not a person. "merli" has a person in x1 for the one doing the measuring. "klani" is the general measure word. All measure words have a number in x2. mu'o mi'e xorxes