Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RFC_ABUSE_POST,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:03:17 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMlaI-0000mL-Rk; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:02:47 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMlZL-0000mF-Sb for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:01:48 -0800 Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([98.139.52.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMlZG-0000iu-I6 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:01:47 -0800 Received: from [98.139.52.190] by nm23.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2010 18:01:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.142] by tm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2010 18:01:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2010 18:01:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 229152.10973.bm@omp1025.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 55031 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2010 18:01:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1290967295; bh=cAUHitixerpO64rlYh/3/UYNvkynw3VC74VbvHn2rxE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S289zE1jcT20HQOYx6UIcvzjxH1YMtD+bBbw/A1r9iUJp/UvLW8Y91rvt4QcA9uJXk9x1Ec+UjsqqnRY3PBejfnsOIv6AkpSO0OWTzJBTGS6wdUUe3i6t78HeNbKIW1tfR0Z/HSZuvXBO9SQAfhzuw+og0NJ24kZHYpdP7r7ohU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0zJZfQcZrA+JAUJeIQlXaB/a+oQYe3h85nMXJmV36Xmg0fZZrGxRy4uekPKD8LiqzuyUDMH2rY7709M1PdlmFvWh6ZqGJ+war2IRoImMI9e2QMVzq1bfyaav/r9w3XvEpAvOgb/5VwibWhdItI7y7DENnxL/k3bNHRCQH/OBtn0=; Message-ID: <718255.52484.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Wdiwk2QVM1nRIcJsKz53ax.ApdrX7thZKIIhkpajI2AJvfw 4RXVmVVGkxGs1TPMFOB3PRQYt48Lu8zVtE6pz68bKwPXUzjQczvC9zWPUN.g 2.jAxMoPNzOqyThGCtiGnUTYuPbARpG9vl5_eCB2CZ04xpSZ0QufrcTtrfhj Ld8imQroX1mRKlJfSkbChRo7Gz.Qk_TV4C1obTS2dMK7n0Vu2MQSLSwcwNpa RrGsbTCtA1ZdjSKF7V8COFKjn4OuZjJ34xiJ.9n74Vzs5ND5fWzILPPnKwjp f0h2oSdwNU0lmoLVPhCi39dBSHWpEYXXN0jsZsuqtCe1vyBffLHtcKbMT1p7 BHTR8BgxfDJ1_CSaRhavWDBJqPtvlJ4xkg1WkNwuoyjeZTA-- Received: from [99.240.58.72] by web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:01:35 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <399774.23982.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201011241940.53956.phma@phma.optus.nu> <959068.5866.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <805735.52419.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:01:35 -0800 (PST) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 15 To: jbovlaste@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 885 Lines: 37 ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jorge Llambías > To: jbovlaste@lojban.org > Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 6:54:32 PM > Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland 15 > > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > >> >> > ko'a klani ko'e lo ckilu be lo nu ko'a se carce lo xo kau da > > > > But about about the x2 of carce?  Surely, as an x3 of carcylai, that would > > answer the question 'cartloads of what? > > The "of what" goes in x1, the "how many" goes in x2. > > "carcylai" is like "litce", or "dekpu", or any of the other measure > words, except it's not so precise. > But in Alice IV, for "`A barrowful of what?' thought Alice", you have:   {lo pa carcylai be ba'e ma}   If x2 is "how many" then this should be: "how many barrowfulls?"     How would you say "I have two barrowfulls of rocks"?   totus