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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 02:36:56 -0500
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Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland nix
From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
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Oh, jbovlaste is not on google groups, so it fails indenting....
I said, " I don't believe in NUTHIN' til it's official, so yeah, I'm
not dotside."

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the idea.  I've often thought that "patfu" sounds quite formal like
> "father" is in english.  I do have one original thought though.  Why are
> many of these gender specific?  I mean, I'm sure it will be useful to say
> things like {doi nim} if you're trying to get someone's attention, but it
> seems very non-lojbanesque to not have a generic "sir" like word that
> doesn't imply gender.
> Also, weird, it looks like the mailing list is doing that thing again where
> people's responses are getting cut out.  gejyspa, did you intend to send a
> reply with no text or did you answer in-line or something and I missed it?
> I saw the following:
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tuesday 14 December 2010 12:23:33 A. PIEKARSKI wrote:
>> >> > coi ro do
>> >> >
>> >> > xorxes used {nix} for 'Miss' in 'Miss Alice'.
>> >> > remod has entered {paf} for 'Dad' and {mam}
>> >> > for 'Mom/Mum' in jbovlaste.
>> >> >
>> >> > All these familar names are based on rafsi.
>> >> >
>> >> > So I propose also these rafsi-based cmevle:
>> >> >
>> >> > {nim} for Ms.
>> >> > {bun} for Brother
>> >> > {mes} for Sister
>> >> > {mic} for Doctor/Dr. (med)
>> >>
>> >> Sound good to me.
>> >>
>> >> > Since no rafsi are available for Mr. and Master,
>> >> > I propose:
>> >> >
>> >> > {nax} for Master
>> >> > {nan} for Mr.
>> >> > {ctut} for Doctor/Dr. (acad)
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean {ctuc}? {nan} is the rafsi of {snanu}, so I'd use it in
>> >> place
>> >> names like {nan.djordjas}. How about {naur}? What's {nax} from, besides
>> >> the
>> >> North Caucasus?
>> >>
>> >> Also I propose {rirx} and {cman} and {xas}. Lakes pose a problem for
>> >> those
>> >> not
>> >> on the dot side.
>> >>
>> >> Pierre
>> >> --
>> >> Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.
>> >
>> > Out of curiosity, are there any people not on the Dot-Side? I know all
>> > the
>> > official materials are being updated to comply with both xorlo and
>> > Dot-Side,
>> > so it's probably an important question.
>> >
>> > --
>> > mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>> >
>> > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi
>> > patfu do
>> > zo'o
>> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
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