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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:55:33 -0800 (PST)
From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: Alice in Wonderland nix
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>{nanl} could also work. Maybe it's best for the long run rule (assuming any 
>consonant pair can be properly pronounced at the end of a word).

I don't think it can.  It's barely distinguishable for {nan}.

totus

>
>Like I said, I think it's more important to decide on a rigid rule than try to 
>maintain some apparent symmetry (that obviously wasn't very apparent to anyone 
>here).
>
>I believe there are more titles than what has been up-to-now presented, and 
>their number can keep growing in the future as titles evolve, so you can't rely 

>on symmetry to always be available.
>
>Some more titles:
>"sir/madam" - perhaps {nol} (or {nolnim} and {nolnaun} if you want gender 
>specifics)
>"judge" - {paip}
>"captain" - {ja'aj}
>etc...
>
>
>On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> 
>wrote:
>
>I have no problem with syllabic "L", so don't mind "nanl".
>>   --gejyspa
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:18 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I see.
>>>>I still think {nax} is a confusing choice given its rafsi association.
>>>>I think, given the lack of a short rafsi for {nanla} we could resort to:
>>>>{nanlal}.
>>>
>>> If we use {naun} for 'Mr.' then we can use {naux} for
>>> Master.  Symmetry preserved!
>>>
>>> totus
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > So I propose also these rafsi-based cmevle:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > {nim} for Ms.
>>>>>
>>>>>> > Since no rafsi are available for Mr. and Master,
>>>>>> > I propose:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > {nax} for Master
>>>>>> > {nan} for Mr.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>How about {naur}? What's {nax} from, besides the
>>>>>> North Caucasus?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The reason I chose {nax} and {nan} was to provide some
>>>>>symmetry - although I don't feel that strongly about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>.nix. (Miss)
>>>>>.nax. (Master)
>>>>>.nan. (Mister)
>>>>>.nim.(Ms)
>>>>>Aviv, the meaning of 'Master' here is the male counterpart of 'Miss'.
>>>>>Not much used in English these days, but it is used in other
>>>>>languages.
>>>>>
>>>>>Using short rafsi as a base was a fine idea, but we can't stick to it
>>>>>too religiously.  {nanla} doesn't have a short rafsi, so {nax} was an
>>>>>obvious choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>totus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>