Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:31:53 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTbLK-0006oV-1Y; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:31:34 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTbKr-0006oP-Vj for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:31:06 -0800 Received: from mail-pv0-f181.google.com ([74.125.83.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTbKo-0006nz-88 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:31:05 -0800 Received: by pvg12 with SMTP id 12so189621pvg.40 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.108.19 with SMTP id g19mr702796wfc.201.1292596256341; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-167-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.167.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x18sm455625wfa.23.2010.12.17.06.30.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:30:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:30:51 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: defining "debug" Message-ID: <20101217143051.GD32499@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org References: <20101217133000.GA32499@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2202 Lines: 74 Wonderful, thank you. I will play with creating a lujvo from these, particularly if our exploration of [rafsi?]cfisisku turns up not expressing the full space of meaning. I'll certainly work through these before putting something up for a vote. Thank you Oren. -Alan On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 09:03:21AM -0500, Oren wrote: > For reference, the Chinese word for debug is tiao-shi, a compound that > broken apart means "tweak/alter" + "try" -- change it, try it, change it, > try it. > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 08:30, .alyn.post. > <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > I'm working on a lujvo for "debug," as in "locate and correct errors > in computer program code." > > I've got: > > cfila : c1 (property - ka) is a flaw/fault/defect in c2 causing c3. > sisku : s1 seeks/searches/looks for property s2 among set s3. > > which creates the lujvo cfisisku, which one could define: > > s1 debugs computer program c2 for flaw/property c1==s2 causing c3 > > To me, the sumti places map extremely well, I'm very pleased to see > it that way. I'm concerned about defining the x2 places as needing > to be a computer program, as that doesn't follow at all from the > gismu that make up this word. > > I could add skami as part of the Lujvo: > > samcfisisku > > But now I have two words to define, and I'm not sure what gloss > words I would use to define cfisisku. Is it wise to add the sam > rafsi? > > I'd also like to add a Lojban definition for this lujvo. I'm > uncertain as to how to do this, and would appreciate help improving > what I've got: > > ko'a sisku lo ka cfila goi ko'e lo samselpla goi ko'i > > I've missed specifying the c3 place, and I haven't linked any of the > xN places to xN places in the gismu definitions. Will you point me > in the right direction? > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > Oren Robinson > (315) 569-2888 > 102 Morrison Ave > Somerville, MA 02144 > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi