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I haven't tried filling in places yet, but to start:

  galfi : x1 (event) modifies/alters/changes/transforms/converts x2 into x3.
  troci : x1 tries/attempts/makes an effort to do/attain x2
          (event/state/property) by actions/method x3.

  galfi troci => gaftoi

I haven't rigorously concluded that these gismu are the best at expressing
"tiao-shi," they're my first attempt.

-Alan

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 09:03:21AM -0500, Oren wrote:
>    For reference, the Chinese word for debug is tiao-shi, a compound that
>    broken apart means "tweak/alter" + "try" -- change it, try it, change it,
>    try it.
> 
>    On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 08:30, .alyn.post.
>    <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> 
>      I'm working on a lujvo for "debug," as in "locate and correct errors
>      in computer program code."
> 
>      I've got:
> 
>      cfila : c1 (property - ka) is a flaw/fault/defect in c2 causing c3.
>      sisku : s1 seeks/searches/looks for property s2 among set s3.
> 
>      which creates the lujvo cfisisku, which one could define:
> 
>      s1 debugs computer program c2 for flaw/property c1==s2 causing c3
> 
>      To me, the sumti places map extremely well, I'm very pleased to see
>      it that way. I'm concerned about defining the x2 places as needing
>      to be a computer program, as that doesn't follow at all from the
>      gismu that make up this word.
> 
>      I could add skami as part of the Lujvo:
> 
>      samcfisisku
> 
>      But now I have two words to define, and I'm not sure what gloss
>      words I would use to define cfisisku. Is it wise to add the sam
>      rafsi?
> 
>      I'd also like to add a Lojban definition for this lujvo. I'm
>      uncertain as to how to do this, and would appreciate help improving
>      what I've got:
> 
>      ko'a sisku lo ka cfila goi ko'e lo samselpla goi ko'i
> 
>      I've missed specifying the c3 place, and I haven't linked any of the
>      xN places to xN places in the gismu definitions. Will you point me
>      in the right direction?
> 
>      -Alan
>      --
>      .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi
> 
>    --
>    Oren Robinson
>    (315) 569-2888
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