Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:44:46 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTh9l-0005Z4-TE; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:44:02 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTh8w-0005Yy-Jo for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:43:10 -0800 Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTh8r-0005Yl-OH for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:43:10 -0800 Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so1451541iwn.40 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:43:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9bJYbAEn8/yQ8F/1fTfo7gdSNngGZpHqtJJNPINgmZU=; b=wYLJ86U8HHBVIq5mSB40HZyVqMULqeGsd1Ob/I2s7xQlfklIUh+Cr8D5WpaAxpAWQ6 WP99uvZUE/8IlaT7Fk38BmrIyPeWUEgVwprwcOAsmn39SdQF+BNpNFK8RtF52iyFUsKW 0QhhNYz2xhtRfHd55mCZZgwtNd+GH9MnOg2KM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wOD4hiH4OXiFhGnjYrtGiDWKX6RRAutU7TrAB6uHzZgvYDYFmXV0Gc2pLkHmU1WdZd 8F5m9n1FvjwALOlv2mKoArq8MFIAO3NHX/WOFeYoJ8vbXRkkFoWPiSzeCHscwhSO0n/3 lKEBWOOyfetzAWVqg77D4ClVMDR9zaUSeFGoE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.12.8 with SMTP id v8mr1222068ibv.147.1292618585147; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.206.146 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:43:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20101217203416.GB33333@alice.local> References: <20101217133000.GA32499@alice.local> <20101217203416.GB33333@alice.local> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 13:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: defining "debug" From: Jonathan Jones To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d7f8d99092f0497a137fe X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 4133 Lines: 117 --0022152d7f8d99092f0497a137fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:20:52PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:30 AM, .alyn.post. > > <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > > > I'm working on a lujvo for "debug," as in "locate and correct errors > > in computer program code." > > > > I've got: > > > > cfila : c1 (property - ka) is a flaw/fault/defect in c2 causing c3. > > sisku : s1 seeks/searches/looks for property s2 among set s3. > > > > which creates the lujvo cfisisku, which one could define: > > > > s1 debugs computer program c2 for flaw/property c1==s2 causing c3 > > > > I'd go with: > > > > "s1 searches c2==s3 for flaw(s) c1==s2 causing c3" > > > > I don't think "proof reader" is anymore apt than "debugger", I think > both > > are equivalently {cfisisku}, the former being a {lo se tcidu > cfisksku}, > > the latter a {lo samselpla cfisisku}. > > > > {lo cfisisku} is merely an agent that searches for imperfections - a > > mechanic is a {lo karce cfisisku}, for instance. > > Thank you for catching the c2==s3 equivalence. I missed that one. > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > Sure thing, although I'd like to amend it to "s1 searches for flaw(s) s2/c1 in s3/c2 causing c3", to preserve order. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --0022152d7f8d99092f0497a137fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:34 PM, .alyn.p= ost. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:20:52PM -0700, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> =A0 =A0On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:30 AM, .alyn.post.
> =A0 =A0<[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0I'm working on a lujvo for "debug," as in &qu= ot;locate and correct errors
> =A0 =A0 =A0in computer program code."
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0I've got:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0cfila : c1 (property - ka) is a flaw/fault/defect in c2 cau= sing c3.
> =A0 =A0 =A0sisku : s1 seeks/searches/looks for property s2 among set s= 3.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0which creates the lujvo cfisisku, which one could define: >
> =A0 =A0 =A0s1 debugs computer program c2 for flaw/property c1=3D=3Ds2 = causing c3
>
> =A0 =A0I'd go with:
>
> =A0 =A0"s1 searches c2=3D=3Ds3 for flaw(s) c1=3D=3Ds2 causing c3&= quot;
>
> =A0 =A0I don't think "proof reader" is anymore apt than = "debugger", I think both
> =A0 =A0are equivalently {cfisisku}, the former being a {lo se tcidu cf= isksku},
> =A0 =A0the latter a {lo samselpla cfisisku}.
>
> =A0 =A0{lo cfisisku} is merely an agent that searches for imperfection= s - a
> =A0 =A0mechanic is a {lo karce cfisisku}, for instance.

Thank you for catching the c2=3D=3Ds3 equivalence. =A0I missed that o= ne.

-Alan
--
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

Sure thing, although I'd like to ame= nd it to "s1 searches for flaw(s) s2/c1 in s3/c2 causing c3", to = preserve order.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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