Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:46 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcSy-0005j3-VK; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:33 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcSX-0005iI-IF for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:05 -0800 Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTcST-0005eA-J0 for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:05 -0800 Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so1120620iwn.40 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LaHkHteta7MlI2KudfSwIUue4lHE/tUTBHQIOyFXyfI=; b=iHT81UDIifxqwb7WxPnFL3h/ssSzIoHAhuYPtDTGfLbbQBG/ZV+/ERG4llgMTZrgp3 mbDocxpW2OOzaKArUnk2wohig5SqVsgVag3fMhgOpR3cdtNkCkIHli9Vy1EI9UWIRyOs UE6yAYM/WDunvwDsdCZyiVY2U5R0tH2/mJD2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pIIgQVl9ALRUYUOvz7uNDINho9cRz97wj3pHTgTuNHGteyBZIGPXeYN9LR9OZNUft1 RtZr73lnGDru+EEmqXO5gEi+botSW7293M2SHA5NOoVMzy2/YONSJlCco0kaLU6T9OTM LMWw6CsMAd10ryd9TE1uXY2RyFLSyJLI22EfE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.76 with SMTP id b12mr860008ibd.162.1292600581047; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.19.199 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.19.199 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:43:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:43:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Re: defining "debug" From: Luke Bergen To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6f6178473804979d06d3 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 1454 Lines: 36 --0022152d6f6178473804979d06d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But again it's sampla specific. Maybe cfisisku is a more generic word than any one word that we have in english. Maybe it's gloss is just "fault find". One of my biggest pet peeves with the apparent process for defining lujvo in the community is this mindset of "ok what would the english gloss for that be? Can't think of one? Ok, must be a bad word. Let's shoehorn he definition into something else so we can have a nice english gloss. I propose: cfisisku = lo sisku cu sisku lo cfalu lo te sisku However you want to define that in english is fine with me. --0022152d6f6178473804979d06d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

But again it's sampla specific.=A0 Maybe cfisisku is a more generic = word than any one word that we have in english.=A0 Maybe it's gloss is = just "fault find".

One of my biggest pet peeves with the apparent process for defining lujv= o in the community is this mindset of "ok what would the english gloss= for that be?=A0 Can't think of one?=A0 Ok, must be a bad word.=A0 Let&= #39;s shoehorn he definition into something else so we can have a nice engl= ish gloss.

I propose:=A0 cfisisku =3D lo sisku cu sisku lo cfalu lo te sisku

However you want to define that in english is fine with me.

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