Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Personal-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on chain.digitalkingdom.org Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:16:24 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([192.168.123.127]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTeqC-0000wP-S3; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:15:41 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list jbovlaste); Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTep6-0000wJ-L0 for jbovlaste-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:14:32 -0800 Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PTep3-0000w0-Dv for jbovlaste@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:14:32 -0800 Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so879662fxm.11 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:14:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=LYKOfmW3zIryRVPuv4xA8nr3nu0oTLhSe6bO5akmt50=; b=PbJiET5xkJ9A0RjI+JH+JPf9ved2C31W00Wr7+qXT6iu2UBxA4Zmk0KmdipRyk2xOZ eu1+ZmVrFRrGDQi26pPSSzzawy2EaUCQfJZnM1ZUxIfDIoC5kyV4bS1AOl4x/JXVA0ud zotl0r8eqKF1YGNqIZk5jaNmbFeCnfLwI6ecE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Gft7CKmRN8BgFHrZx04ud1cR3jqQUEG0V+NnKap8dUm0cluxbOFOwqZ/8GL8IBMUL+ ujtJZr6a8Iegpa/T0+ZoUKFFFpJkiwciOW/3vH2XgIU5d1raHVj8NROBAArXTVxeHJjq 1Dfyadv+REp/APu2B9tJ10J8IXO5kh2G1JOO0= Received: by 10.223.112.1 with SMTP id u1mr1401871fap.109.1292609663008; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:14:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.66.220 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:14:02 -0800 (PST) From: Oren Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 13:14:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [jbovlaste] Debug: is {troci} right? To: jbovlaste@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a4e5cbff8904979f239a X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: jbovlaste-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: get.oren@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jbovlaste@lojban.org X-list: jbovlaste Content-Length: 2314 Lines: 62 --001636c5a4e5cbff8904979f239a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 when I { troci }, i think of it as an effort/attempt at something, whereas when i think of "trying something out" i.e. giving a car a test drive, or running a program to see some output, i see that as something more like { cipra } or pajni or jarco, I'm verifying some parameter that's in question, ex. { mi troci lonu sazri lo karce } I'm trying to drive a car, as in I'm attempting/making an effort to attain driving a car. { mi cipra lo spofu lo karce } ? I'm trying out the car, as in I'm taking a car for a test drive to see if/how it's broken. (I probably said those wrong) So maybe troci isn't the right thing to integrate into "debugging"? How about { cipra cikre } for test-fix? -- Oren Robinson (315) 569-2888 102 Morrison Ave Somerville, MA 02144 --001636c5a4e5cbff8904979f239a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
when I { troci }, i think of it as an effort/attempt at something, whereas = when i think of "trying something out" i.e. giving a car a test d= rive, or running a program to see some output, i see that as something more= like { cipra } or pajni or jarco, I'm verifying some parameter that= 9;s in question,

ex.
{ mi troci lonu sazri lo karce }
I'= ;m trying to drive a car, as in
I'm attempting/making an effo= rt to attain driving a car.

{ mi cipra lo spofu lo= karce } ?
I'm trying out the car, as in
I'm taking a car for a= test drive to see if/how it's broken.

(I prob= ably said those wrong)

So maybe troci isn't th= e right thing to integrate into "debugging"? How about { cipra ci= kre } for test-fix?

--
Oren Robinson
(315) 569-2888
102 Morrison Ave
Somerville, MA 02144

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