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PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban] Re: [jbovlaste] malranxi To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17560912040709s28835ec9uf8817b491ce3b9c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 16589 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 1447 Lines: 49 ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jorge Llambías > To: lojban-list@lojban.org > Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 10:09:57 AM > Subject: [lojban] Re: [jbovlaste] malranxi > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:40 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > > >> so I suggest "raxsku" > >> "x1 says x2 to x3 via medium x4, which is ironic/contrary to > >> expectation (that x1 would say what they really mean, the usual > >> expectation when someone says something) > >> > >> I'm not sure what the x3 aspect of ranxi would be in this case. > >> > > Is this how you would write it? > > > > {c1 cusku c2 c3 c4 .ijebo lonu go'i cu ranxi lonu so'eda tersmu le go'e} > > {c1 raxsku c2 c3 c4} > > What's "le go'e"? Well, both {go'i} and {go'e} were meant to refer to {c1 cusku c2 c3 c4 }. > > I would say: > > ko'a cusku ko'e ko'i ko'o .ije la'e di'u ranxi lo nu na cusku lo to'e > se smuni be lo se jinvi > > As for the x3 of "ranxi", I now think that what characterizes this > type of irony has to be something like "intentional", or "intentional > for effect", as opposed to ironic situations that just happen to be > ironic unintentionally. > Could be.  But in any case it gets dropped in the formulation of the lujvo. totus To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.