Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:36296) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SqTaf-0002gB-QA for lbck-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:50 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf5810270vbz.16 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=wcSl9xurAV58crwAF9JKN//naVJuNuDgzU0uXnExS3A=; b=cB/wgqiQjOfEKuMXzuH4uF4FSutsonpx14X24mqj4LDJB2jXp6r2K/sYH+oTlRFORG Bpq8+sBzRbY7nagGN8fVkXT21rD4hDEqIcCOoi/N4/nKY+oWywSJji+aCEf1rySBYzjE F4xhGMwt1mu+eo7JKJPBaEsaQHdlSJRt9c9Oc= Received: by 10.236.9.41 with SMTP id 29mr1049430yhs.0.1342377039544; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.121.34 with SMTP id q22ls7724075yhh.7.gmail; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.185.226 with SMTP id u62mr18741167yhm.3.1342377039256; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.185.226 with SMTP id u62mr18741165yhm.3.1342377039242; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n15si1456571anq.2.2012.07.15.11.30.38; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C373721716 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What goes on the first test? Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:30:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <0f1c1c48-248f-47e2-90ff-4d10a7a7deab@googlegroups.com> <201207150949.05250.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201207151430.36092.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 186919887485 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday 15 July 2012 11:42:13 Ali Sajid Imami wrote: > Clarifying the Regular Language Ability test vs. Standardized Language > Proficiency test: I take the normal class tests for English as the former, > while a test like IELTS or TOEFL is the latter. I don't know these tests (I've heard of the TOEFL, but haven't taken it). Could you describe the difference? > I see your scales, but how would you be integrating them into a testing > system? When generating a test for a certain level, the ratings of a question on the various scales are averaged to give an overall rating, and questions that fall in the range appropriate for the level are selected. Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman.