From grbounce-1SmKRQUAAADb_R2oRU4VvVPYnC2H_cF3=phma=phma.optus.nu@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 5 19:48:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFEFD675 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f137.google.com (mail-vw0-f137.google.com [209.85.212.137]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25828CE8FC for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so3862040vws.17 for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:received:from:to :subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id:reply-to:sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env :x-beenthere; bh=w18VVVMfHgQ8jF+0TSnVA+Gl/KyMOpLXBA8kv6OUja4=; b=WTYgIA3gDbNUimF6HBicXqTKqRCqvUDDCrvXn4Hocp8TKoe26Ex8lk/g7ekdgVBFN8 B4oTym8LTSM4m6nQdf0diUqj7nKO1Qp1AOkV4wpU3ayc2b099bhW0xr++NoACAWJ1qbT J1s6ZBMKREZzO7lox787VGBpmxfq55PnU/oH4= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results:from :to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id:reply-to:sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env :x-beenthere; b=LCl0CCevR0f9XzmkknwZD8h5oNznW1txVVUfYUCXXBCjtDeMWhVa/WhMSEiSCxLvTw Y1IISr6Jf1mc8fbTly9YvlxSA238yGr9DZsPOTL5yGA3au80enz0ghKh9+GvE8zYZC8T bOL8HdxRofsCsr96Bm/tgu3Jlc+VoXgbMSybg= Received: by 10.220.78.31 with SMTP id i31mr681799vck.9.1252194326121; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.230.9.105 with SMTP id k41gr20vbk.0; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.12.133 with SMTP id x5mr3820427vcx.28.1252194325637; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.12.133 with SMTP id x5mr3820426vcx.28.1252194325607; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si184959vws.8.2009.09.05.16.45.25; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090905234524913.TZXK5638@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 23:45:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46983D674 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:45:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: test example Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:45:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <1f194146-c6b9-4af1-b3dd-462c407830bc@l9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <200909020953.01822.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560909020807y3742be55h397b638922713f49@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560909020807y3742be55h397b638922713f49@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200909051945.21360.phma@phma.optus.nu> Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com On Wednesday 02 September 2009 11:07:46 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > What other kinds of questions would be needed for a full proficiency > > test? > > Listening comprehension, essay writing, speaking... How should those be entered in the database? For listening comprehension, t= he=20 text in retygri.jufra could be printed on the proctor's sheet instead of th= e=20 testee's, but then the proctor might have a lousy accent in Lojban. Pierre