From grbounce-1SmKRQUAAADb_R2oRU4VvVPYnC2H_cF3=phma=phma.optus.nu@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 3 08:37:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6F2DF11 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-px0-f145.google.com (mail-px0-f145.google.com [209.85.216.145]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78081CE725 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pxi9 with SMTP id 9so2109723pxi.14 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:dkim-signature :domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:reply-to:sender :precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; bh=afaxKtpBs20OG86g76kIY5fMwLypekw0uCYiU7/DXdY=; b=366T2VMUXlOIUMeJ4qn/sHcyPAPmpGgA9BVMcEsJO9FZcDjySncBcObXfCJ5IkJazH e6BtUb4z87uVrluguZ4VQvGSXj8yv3a/VCGrLyu88JihUin2p6RYnVS1C0Il744FW+Z/ 7IaTAhLfD+ZL7daIkdGNq56RSzIUUxZLBtr8E= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results :dkim-signature:domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:reply-to :sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; b=oliokBCnl5x/42sWvikXXTQptxxsa/B9EvvitUVkdlvwFTvT3O/CHkbIx8w/Yglq0E 3sHZh70dS/PrpaXVjMs8CjrMXVce15/ub4byThuFW8npYZJxpKIIce/gzItFXxb8tsCE IoZB/6Vu/v3b8weu4sQwl1u6SDmnHTE9AkDpg= Received: by 10.141.20.6 with SMTP id x6mr1604386rvi.19.1251981450225; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.101.15 with SMTP id d15gr13prm.0; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.235.20 with SMTP id i20mr6665446ybh.16.1251981448843; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.235.20 with SMTP id i20mr6665445ybh.16.1251981448820; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f196.google.com (mail-yx0-f196.google.com [209.85.210.196]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si163533ywh.3.2009.09.03.05.37.27; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.196 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.196; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Received: by mail-yx0-f196.google.com with SMTP id 34so966673yxe.8 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=181Gr+TMMFvlwEb9ZmMP4CyllLCTfVtM6lJ9enxY9Mw=; b=nLDGY2sNhTV38hg4zUgc0AMhCBBc3cZ8ZaAn+dxHRxYfLfeCdx1NnsRYNDtHSSL+Qp csnAgV8Uekl4wBq4HL/vl+r+gIsdb+gxhYc1SHbRvzt62nj3JVI+Y/Dvig5K+eQyLGne 3HAVjThqrh/WcZ76fUm6xBx4EKW9lAESbYyNI= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I3Di8kxP0BfbFki2DVddlSMIDv/uoYufemDo1vmP2S7icG8AOO1QG9iX6OWd3a/efz /egGLo84jxNKbrPRs6o4bjGfeafOF3UFr1MmEoTKY4cuDkuKhR+SFR8sXuowFCw5eai6 136yNK2llOmcAps75Qybp+DPHsHAnueegH5Jc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.144.10 with SMTP id r10mr7101070agd.70.1251981447655; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:37:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:37:27 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560909030537u5261074ar2bdd3dd392aaffbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How many levels From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: > > I was hoping to have more tests that test smaller parts of the > language. This has several advantages. It has to do with social > factors about motivating the human brain. We probably don't need to commit to a fixed number of levels at this point. We can start working on one test, level-X, then add a second test, which depending on how the level-X turns out, it could be higher or lower level, then add a third level, and so on. I agree that the more levels the better for all the reasons you give, but we may not have the resources to work on more than one level at a time. I would be extremely happy if we manage to get a single level test up and running. What we should probably do is not give the test a name that makes it difficult to name other tests above and below it. We might call it level-500 if we decide that 500 is the number of tested words for the first test that we design. Then we can add a level-100 or a level-2000 or whatever if that looks like the best next step. mu'o mi'e xorxes