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From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com I think they do. And also, I think that's a great idea. There is going to be a whole discussion on pricing. -Matt On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > Just a random thought that crossed my mind: (some portion of) > certification dues could be put in a pot to help defray logfest > costs, and the reward for passing the (harder, more expensive) > higher level certs could be getting money out of that pot. > > (on the theory that people who come to logfest tend to come back; no > idea if that's actually true or not :) > > -Robin > > -- > They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to you to try for somet= hing > other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrun= klink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ >