From grbounce-1SmKRQUAAADb_R2oRU4VvVPYnC2H_cF3=phma=phma.optus.nu@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 5 18:07:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225BDD5CD for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f137.google.com (mail-vw0-f137.google.com [209.85.212.137]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D1BCE8FC for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so3813462vws.17 for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:received:from:to :subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id:reply-to:sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env :x-beenthere; bh=lKa0qXRwbzqWX0BF+M3Qih21fjh1rd2nb0zSt9awUQk=; b=ZFDGVlsluYeitPx2zE10l9L3TQbRXwx9iXt1RMhHQ8VqgWQA0fmtN/qWsbCItyDg7u KKBd6OInFsg3QbKCmxbH3eQ0I7+t+vejwk/iRPRyemJwjmQslBcbEXEnXLh2dscDH/KR a6X3SR8V3Ck1OoaiRE6bkTTUlhxsbXHBpReLk= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results:from :to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id:reply-to:sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env :x-beenthere; b=l8Zdth6Ez/btwQgx8Lsrkwgi+YUQwQZgTdUYWV/4ZI/PVbF+qkqxuHsB3m0SBvWQYX jbC59OR6JVrXA1hfPkYVsM6pJTNQofNOmDjqe38B+UdxaclZK8vxzmGvpzo20fc1l2bf B2JaCeCab23h2TMzCCvzMcMz1qccmqN2yHpXo= Received: by 10.220.78.9 with SMTP id i9mr397008vck.8.1252188396867; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.230.28.96 with SMTP id l32gr19vbc.0; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.87.230 with SMTP id x38mr3573768vcl.0.1252188396029; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.87.230 with SMTP id x38mr3573767vcl.0.1252188395971; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si180961vws.8.2009.09.05.15.06.31; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090905220631744.EOM29089@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:06:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21835D5D0 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:06:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: test example Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:06:15 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <1f194146-c6b9-4af1-b3dd-462c407830bc@l9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <200909020953.01822.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560909020807y3742be55h397b638922713f49@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560909020807y3742be55h397b638922713f49@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200909051806.17878.phma@phma.optus.nu> Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com On Wednesday 02 September 2009 11:07:46 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > "lo _cipnrkuku_ cu _punji_ le ri _sodva_ le zdani be lo _drata_ cipni" > > A. cipnrkuku > B. punji > C. sodva > D. drata > E. _no se srera_ (written for example in some other font) > > (Very tricky question. It took me a while to realize that the answer > wasn't in fact E. If there wasn't a "no se srera" option it would have > been easier. Not sure if we really want to include this kind of > thing.) I think we should. People confuse words in natlangs too, and there are=20 questions on proficiency tests for there/they're/their and lay/lie (the pas= t=20 of one verb is homophonous with the present of the other). One pair that=20 trips me up in Spanish is vendr=E1/vender=E1, because French vendra is Span= ish=20 vender=E1 and French viendra is Spanish vendr=E1. I thought of another one. A sentence I made up for illustrating "be'o" is "= ti=20 zbasu be lo takybli bei lo kliti be'o minji". Remove "be'o" and it's still= =20 grammatical, but silly: "This makes bricks out of clay machines." As a test= =20 question: ti zbasu be lo takybli bei lo kliti minji A. B. be C. bei D. E. no se srera Is that a good way of indicating a missing word? Pierre