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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:26:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <200909090027.38831.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560909090823l2e6a698fw53c97206ac7b20e4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560909090823l2e6a698fw53c97206ac7b20e4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200909091626.12318.phma@phma.optus.nu> Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com On Wednesday 09 September 2009 11:23:32 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > Personally, I would prefer using the same number throughout. Four > choices makes it easier to construct the questions, five makes the > questions more discriminating (it makes guessing a little more > difficult), but on balance I think it's better to have more questions > with four choices than fewer with five choices. Based on my experience taking tests, I prefer five. But I think that should= =20 just be a maximum, and questions can have anywhere from two (true and false= )=20 to five choices. > Which could instead be something like: > > zo ci'onrai ma dunli lo ka valsi > A. zo cikrai > B. zo cimrai > C. zo cinrai > D. zo citrai With three words, there are five ways all, some, or none can be the same. S= o=20 we could ask: 1. cnoblo 2. conlo'i 3. coiblo A. ro di'u dunsi'u B. le pamoi cu frica le remoi .e le cimoi C. le remoi cu frica le cimoi .e le pamoi D. le cimoi cu frica le pamoi .e le remoi E. ro di'u ficysi'u I think that questions should be organized into sections, so that instructi= ons=20 can be given once per section. So we have: Section {Instructions (Total number of questions to ask in this section) Question group {Story, or the like (Number of questions in this group to ask) Question Question Question ... } Question group {Story, or the like (Number of questions in this group to ask) Question Question Question ... } ... } You pick at random a subset of the question groups whose numbers of questio= ns=20 add up to the section's number of questions, then pick at random questions= =20 from each section group. Pierre