From grbounce-1SmKRQUAAADb_R2oRU4VvVPYnC2H_cF3=phma=phma.optus.nu@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 10 20:02:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B01D353 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f144.google.com (mail-iw0-f144.google.com [209.85.223.144]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C83BCE725 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so127305iwn.11 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:received:from:to :subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:reply-to :sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; bh=+N9adFnOyljRWTsqC3gmEsRcnBailkj4nt8OnNI3nfs=; b=f2B2Yw1VV7namNIXyRo65bJW52Qu1zLxgOs31GpP3FEUboyk2OjM7VDtJCwilzTr/c RkC76udKypbMv0dL5pZHdO78ea7LZ0KvgfTuC65P95E5zD4hyFKvC1Lfx6cKNTyycFzl W8hrQ+gTr1lvhkP4pU+06iIfBvbK/2lZqVcjs= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results:from :to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:reply-to :sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; b=Kg9gzVt5rmU2x0r6/hzARn9U6a9rwARdapKvAeTT+Td4dERF/zikhCaM/y11SNeHUs G4V8C01/wFMSiotU3boTgV+4n5ZHtzQx0J6aN3f9WWLRWl6ghUCtOH/LT6uNf5WD2jXX Nv6FgJwRmw/tqSePgigOdjcFreT3pbGanhpN8= Received: by 10.150.168.4 with SMTP id q4mr734060ybe.4.1252627047293; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.133.2 with SMTP id g2gr31yqd.0; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.78.42 with SMTP id i42mr312630vck.12.1252627046409; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.78.42 with SMTP id i42mr312629vck.12.1252627046384; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 21si210917vws.9.2009.09.10.16.57.25; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090910235725641.PXBN14103@cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:57:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4423D353 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:57:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Subject: fu'ivla formation question Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:57:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200909101957.22790.phma@phma.optus.nu> Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Here's a proposed question for testing fu'ivla formation: ma na taidra fu'ivla A. zo .aierne B. zo .urartu C. zo kartuli D. zo kafkaso E. zo tirkce Slight problem, though: "zo .urartu na taidra fu'ivla" is ungrammatical, because "urartu" breaks up and "zo" grabs only the word "u". How do you suggest fixing that? Another version: "ma na fu'ivla", and substitute "xrazdani" for ".urartu". zo xrazdani has nothing to do with the rest of the words, but happens to sound like the name of a river in the area. Pierre