From grbounce-1SmKRQUAAADb_R2oRU4VvVPYnC2H_cF3=phma=phma.optus.nu@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 2 16:06:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: phma@localhost Delivered-To: phma@localhost Received: from chausie.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B616D74D for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Received: from 192.168.7.2 [192.168.7.2] by chausie.ixazon.lan with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f153.google.com (mail-yx0-f153.google.com [209.85.210.153]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7D1CE29B for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yxe17 with SMTP id 17so267217yxe.9 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-sender:x-apparently-to :received:received:received:received-spf:received:dkim-signature :domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:reply-to:sender :precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; bh=sNsIj2Ne9bdOuLSQNPp7s43v1GgD7SaB3NLXiz6JKr0=; b=wIaY33t3YTCWJmuwUOO5V+icVQVdiEmujAQXcd6Z0GlNz2pv92j1ur+tsygRZA+j3w 63fH8fybh8HCJry+BdmVVLPrAPJfJQqLAVDuwWpTsrLz/zdg61czMfG6vdFLFy2d1F18 rvSRXxqHuP/5ycGIviw9UZaVmbH2fxMUUVg1k= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-sender:x-apparently-to:received-spf:authentication-results :dkim-signature:domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:reply-to :sender:precedence:x-google-loop:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-unsubscribe:x-beenthere-env:x-beenthere; b=2d0pzpu1ZoDpCQd79EPQbWvlDmGzd6kUNjI/tyzpTfWS/yba7JapNCVpZhYpb/FYai LtcONL/K1fiH8eyHx3/+xrkiygglhMODZbCHlUhYfOT8Jmk1JCvos5GBJyEK5o6T3iDU BD1QWAh6LmLf4tV2uH/1sHMmLT2s4B0hd3c20= Received: by 10.100.70.12 with SMTP id s12mr1078545ana.1.1251921870885; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.207.9 with SMTP id e9gr9yqg.0; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.32.2 with SMTP id k2mr5889887anj.21.1251921870041; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.32.2 with SMTP id k2mr5889885anj.21.1251921869999; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f174.google.com (mail-yw0-f174.google.com [209.85.211.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si43181ywh.2.2009.09.02.13.04.28; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.211.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.211.174; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.211.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Received: by mail-yw0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 4so379983ywh.1 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lg0z+yGgr/mIg4vafVcAV7EitF9Z3FjIS34ENnjijUc=; b=ZYf7bvCN/AuMA0fOlzmMxsgit8fAxge0mNTVGjqa2n1hhA4uDQbiU9thG63qllIjrV aphMBkd85bx6MSVltBprEWMrp9BJ3ZQpiQ4Fn+i+MHMZhdtEtGTlewgqsxdhlgxYIrMQ +BIp/dA6S1gmRRc/28FBRtEYNBA0TKNeZTGSQ= Domainkey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Sd61mKU3+9P+OSa3z59czqaiWX8JEvY3OD/oef8Rx0Mcs1mSiO5fUMEv10dIR0Q6yo 4BDtHp+mOOYt6gg1tj+xG9DLOjQi6KKPOB4xmVfv5S6Rfgjd3TUPtJcEETtShdn5U7gp MTzV3i9O3WzSBS1Lo7PzLwdAuyWPoawRZ8h8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.122.11 with SMTP id z11mr6393795agm.111.1251921868883; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:04:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1f194146-c6b9-4af1-b3dd-462c407830bc@l9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <200909020953.01822.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:04:28 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560909021304td47cbb8v2f1c6d9cb879e79@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: test example From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reply-To: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Sender: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Precedence: bulk X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-lbck+owner@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: , X-Beenthere-Env: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com X-Beenthere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: > > How about displaying it as an image? I would be happy to lay out all > such questions in Adobe Illustrator. It might also inhibit cheating > through text-selection and browser-find on the word lists. -Eppcott Sounds good. If we can also include pictures, that would allow for more varied forms of questions and make the test more entertaining. I don't know if we should be too concerned about cheating. Anyone who cheats will be mainly cheating themselves. Including some short paragraph at the beginning of the test explaining how to take the test and why cheating is not a good idea should probably keep most people honest, and if they still want to cheat it's their own business. But if it doesn't involve a lot of work, let's go for it. We have to take into account that each test will be distinct since the questions will be selected randomly, but I suppose each question can be displayed separately. mu'o mi'e xorxes