From lojban-lbck+bncCK30vq5WEOra3eUEGgSRytlF@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 13:52:04 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6UmO-00075K-Np for lbck-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:52:04 -0700 Received: by pxi5 with SMTP id 5sf7458pxi.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:received :x-beenthere:received:received:received:received:received :received-spf:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:user-agent:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :x-removed-original-auth:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vVIYW/kVg/OH0P7E+hdQ36S5UfCpzOjuEDeTiCE4Ubs=; b=HrEGQvccsj7/WpHtQahg8wnZutLkGp9HXROTrDQ/hhLkV3+pmXHiMGdS3DWHyXZZne Krq6M9I5M6sQtSAXcP8P7DApNXFrT93QuKSAfd1uulBWVf52IK55bZcd5ETqQIopOHXh d/z5wVszUt2G+BuV9sVQBS9CgWrPfaZl7metE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:user-agent:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :x-removed-original-auth:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=KHrD89Qp5HwEhjI3lqMW6ZUcc0ohYMJa7eShocYRarNNlmIA6NStCKFrmzUtMDeyLy +e3UIHYE12mUAai4HNFbk/Rpf7CbPzj7EflXN/JeT1i32VAbr2uE2+j3jzvSKQyfuwEZ PBa7srwVdjYX584tEPkuL8248W3nucjVbR2FQ= Received: by 10.142.152.27 with SMTP id z27mr540475wfd.68.1287089514953; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls228130wfb.0.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.10.18 with SMTP id n18mr4286420wfi.20.1287089514078; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.10.18 with SMTP id n18mr4286419wfi.20.1287089514050; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si8028232wfl.3.2010.10.14.13.51.52; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6UmB-000748-FF for lojban-lbck@googlegroups.com; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:52 -0700 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Um8-00073i-58; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:47 -0700 Received: by gwj22 with SMTP id 22sf94971gwj.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.72.9 with SMTP id u9mr1019007yba.81.1287089494622; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.158.14 with SMTP id g14ls1558190ybe.7.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.98.3 with SMTP id a3mr8926ybm.33.1287089494285; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.224.17 with SMTP id w17mr4722289wfg.70.1287086097980; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.224.17 with SMTP id w17mr4722288wfg.70.1287086097944; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si7911804wfl.7.2010.10.14.12.54.57; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6TtA-000438-Nv for lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:56 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6TtA-00042v-Bx for lojban-announce@lojban.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:54:56 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-announce@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-announcements] If you have problems with Lojban, now's the time. Message-ID: <20101014195454.GB24066@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-announcements+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Removed-Original-Auth: is not part of the dkdomain googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If there's something you think really needs fixing, find a BPFK section ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Sections ) and add it to the Notes section at the bottom. Make such a section if it doesn't exist. Use the misc section if you really must, but try not to. This is for problems *WITH THE LANGUAGE*. Problems with learning materials or dictionaries or projects or whatever will be toss ruthlessly. Please keep it as succint as you possibly can, but give enough info that we'll go "Oh, yeah, that's a problem". Please put some identifying information on it, so we can contact you if we think it's important but need more detail. If you can link to discussion about the issue in question on a mailing list, that would be *fantastic*. I don't guarantee that all proposals will be seriously considered. At all. Most will probably be laughed at and tossed out. But it's important for some soon-to-happen BPFK steps that we know where all the real contention is. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 The mail came from the "Lojban Announcements" Google Group. You are probab= ly not subscribed to that group directly. All mails to this group are forw= arded to all major Lojban groups. See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lojbanic+= Forums for details about what this list is for, including how to contact th= e management.