Received: from localhost ([::1]:42432 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SjzUD-0007cl-5c; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:09:17 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SjzUA-0007cg-UN for llg-board@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:09:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:09:14 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: llg-board@lojban.org Message-ID: <20120627210914.GA392@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: llg-board@lojban.org References: <4FEA2469.1040201@lojban.org> <20120626215146.GN392@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4FEACD84.7040708@wakelift.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FEACD84.7040708@wakelift.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [llg-board] Creating a Dictionary X-BeenThere: llg-board@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: llg-board@lojban.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-board-bounces@lojban.org On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:08:20AM +0200, Timo Paulssen wrote: > On 26.06.2012 23:51, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 05:06:49PM -0400, Robert LeChevalier > >wrote: > >>I seem to recall that Robin paid Lindar (or was it someone else) > >>once before for a chunk of work related to byfy. I don't recall > >>how that worked out, or even whether Robin reported on how well > >>it worked out. I would appreciate a report on that earlier > >>experiment with paid work (including how much was paid for what > >>amount of work) before opining on the virtue of this one. > > > >It was Lindar, and aside from mild annoyance with him due to his > >somewhat abrasive personality, it worked out fine; he was > >trolling the mailing list history for me for things to reference > >from BPFK pages so that we have knowledge of what historically > >has been contentious or complicated or whatever. He did, in > >fact, find and link to many many things; it looked like enough > >work to match what we paid him for. > > > >-Robin > > Since it worked well before and because the project Lindar > proposes seems like a good thing to have, I think the proposal > should be accepted. > > However, I have no clue of how much any such work is worth and how > much the minimum wage actually is, since I've neither done any > real paid work before, nor live where lindar does. I think the > rate of payment would still need a bit of discussion. His request was to be paid the $960 up front, and then to work the amount of time he specificed, or perhaps a bit more, with the intent of finishing the job. Given the whole planning fallacy thing, I've requested that he tie things more tightly to actual hours work; if we give him $800 (seemed a nice round number to start with), he will work 100 hours on this project and get back to us when that's done. I wish to make it clear that I have not, and do not intend to, explore the tax or legal implications of paying him; he's an independent contractor responsible for his own taxation as far as I'm concerned. If the IRS hunts us down, you can call it my fault. If that's a problem, then we need to find someone to do that research, but honestly, the worst *possible* case is that we owe the IRS a bit of money; no-one's going to jail over this kind of cash. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u _______________________________________________ llg-board mailing list llg-board@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-board