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Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> His request was to be paid the $960 up front, and then to work the
> amount of time he specificed, or perhaps a bit more, with the intent
> of finishing the job.
>
> Given the whole planning fallacy thing, I've requested that he tie
> things more tightly to actual hours work; if we give him $800
> (seemed a nice round number to start with), he will work 100 hours
> on this project and get back to us when that's done.

If Arnt accepts this as a friendly amendment, then I will support it.

Then, if there is no objection within 72 hours from my message being 
posted, Robin can consider the motion passed for dealing with the 
alacrity thing (assuming that is sufficient alacrity).

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> I wish to make it clear that I have not, and do not intend to,
> explore the tax or legal implications of paying him; he's an
> independent contractor responsible for his own taxation as far as
> I'm concerned.  If the IRS hunts us down, you can call it my fault.
> If that's a problem, then we need to find someone to do that
> research, but honestly, the worst *possible* case is that we owe the
> IRS a bit of money; no-one's going to jail over this kind of cash.

They didn't complain about the last time, so I see no reason to handle 
things differently this time.

Now, with regard to paying Robin, I would support that even more 
strongly in terms of benefit to the organization, but because he is a 
director and an officer, it becomes harder to pretend he is an 
"independent contractor".

I know that there were relevant rules I had to respond to when we made 
the original 501(c)(3) tax exemption filing, but that was more than 20 
years ago, and I am not sure of the details.  I think they had to do 
with no more than some X percentage of our income inuring to the benefit 
of an officer or director.  Someone needs to reread the rules, and 
probably someone in addition to Robin (which probably means me, lucky 
guy).  No going to jail is likely over such a thing, but we don't want 
to lose the tax exemption, either.

I suspect that there would be no problem.  I know JCB paid himself a 
chunk of money from TLI as an "employee", IIRC because he needed a few 
more quarters to qualify for social security.  On the other hand, I'm 
not sure that I want to hold up JCB's management of TLI as an exemplar 
of business ethics.

lojbab

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